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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
There we go on Triple H again...
2002 was awful, except that SummerSlam night. 2003 was okay-ish, but he was injured for most parts despite being World Champion and the state of WWE in terms of the talent pool in Raw was really poor.
From that Michaels match in 2003, he was back to meaning business and that lasted until he cooled down with the DX parodies and all in 2006. After his return in 2007, I can name a handful matches that are good/great, excluding the two WrestleMania classics against Undertaker.
Triple H gets a lot of slack for his stuff in 2002/2003. Apart from that period, Triple H has always been an exceptional talent. Personally, with the exception of his run after the heel turn in 1999 and up until the injury in 2001, I prefer his 2002/2003 "reign of terror" over any part of his career. As a character and the whole the Evolution franchise, I enjoyed that part so much more than the stuff he did afterwards. Preference.
From a wrestling perspective, I think I could name 20 matches that are four stars and above. For me, that's only lesser than Michaels and probably Benoit in WWE. I'm not sure of Benoit.
When people talk of Triple H at WrestleMania, mostly they magnify his matches before the Undertaker match at X-Seven and the bombed main events against Jericho and Orton. Triple H doesn't have a catalog of matches resembling that of Shawn Michaels; the Undertaker lately, and Macho Man--if we consider the time and age of his wrestling peak and the difference in the quality of Savage's matches to other wrestlers' matches at that time. I don't think Hunter had a true WrestleMania classic until 'Mania XX. The Undertaker match at X-Seven was very good, but not a classic or anything. It's amazing to think that it was Undertaker's best match at WrestleMania until that point and probably his best non-gimmick match up until that point too. I consider his match against Booker T at XIX to be a very good match and his best until WrestleMania XIX. The 21 match against Batista wasn't good from a work-rate view, but I think it was a great spectacle and that's the best "put over" match in the main event in WrestleMania history. I consider it to be greater than XX and 22, as far as promoting a talent goes. The "meh" matches would be 24 and 26, although 24 was decent. X-8 and 25 absolutely flopped. If I had to rate his 'Mania matches after "the Game," it'd be:
2000 ~ ** 3/4
X-Seven ~ *** 1/2
X-8 ~ *
XIX ~ *** 3/4
XX ~ *****
21 ~ ***
22 ~ **** 1/4
XXIV ~ *** 1/4
XXV ~ * 1/2 (around there; haven't watched it since then)
XXVI ~ ** 1/4
XXVII ~ *****
XXVIII ~ **** 3/4
I wouldn't call that underwhelming at all. In fact, that's incredible for the flack Triple H receives every morning. Shawn Michaels is Mr. WrestleMania, while the Undertaker has the Streak, which is considered bigger than the World Title. For somebody who doesn't have a special acronym at WrestleMania, I think it's all good.