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Old 01-13-2013, 07:29 PM   #14061 (permalink)
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Just watched Taker v Kane from WM 14 and would definitely put it above the Inferno match.

It's been ages since I saw Extreme Rules 2011 but I do remember that it was a good show. Might watch the Ladder match and the Punk/Orton match again to refresh my memory as it's a bit hazy for those two matches.

I also just realised that I never ended up seeing Christian/Orton from Over the Limit. I don't know if I saw the Capital Punishment match either. I know I saw the others including the Smackdown matches though. They were all excellent.

Edit: I might just watch the whole series in order.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:32 PM   #14062 (permalink)
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Should of been Cena/Christian feud
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Christian's promo from Backlash 2005 IMO.
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Wrestlemania VI


This is the first time I've seen this event in its entirety (just got the Anthology....after long, long last):


--Koko B. Ware vs Rick "The Model" Martel ★ 3/4 Despite the score this was a decent opener. It was kinda fun the technical style of Martel and the quick paced Koko didn't do bad at all.
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--WWF Tag Team Championship: The Colossal Connection Andre The Giant & Haku (c) vs Demolition ★
Man I never knew Andre was a tag champion, nor did I know he tagged with Haku. This is why I love the classics, you learn something new when you watch them. This was basically Haku vs Demolition as Andre did little to nothing. The face turn for Andre got over hugely though, I have to admit I even got really into it.
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--Earthquake vs Hercules DUD
Wow...this was like a Superstars match. It was obviously supposed to highlight Earthquake's size and nothing else.
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--[b]Mr. Perfect vs Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake ★/b]
A little bit of Perfect goes a long way. Wrong guy won....really shitty ending but Perfect did an awesome job even on the losing end.
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--Bad News Brown vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper ★ 3/4
Piper being painted half-black is ridiculous, I couldn't ascertain the reasoning for it. I've seen his documentary where he explained it but I forgot. I think he said its got something to do with Michael Jackson. Its dangerously close to Minstrelsy...low key it might actually be but I'm not offended.

The match itself was pretty well booked. Both guys no-selling each other and brawling to a DQ was actually an understable finish, even if it isn't the most satisfying.
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--The Bolsheviks vs The Hart Foundation DUD
WTF was that? A 15-16 second squash....the fuck is the point of that?
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--The Barbarian vs Tito Santana ★
The Barbarian has an awesome look. The haircut, tassels, face paint combination really works, even if it does stray from him being a "barbarian". He's not much of a worker however even if I did thoroughly like the flying clothesline.

Vince's booking of big guys is basically "you take hits but you never go down" it makes sense but when you have 10-15 guys on the roster to book like that it gets tiresome.
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--Mixed Tag Team Match: Dusty Rhodes & Sapphire vs "The Macho King" Randy Savage & "Sensational" Queen Sherri ★ 3/4
I love over the top nicknames in wrestling...and "Sensational Queen" takes the motherfuckin' cake! The early booking of this match is ridiculous. Sapphire is doing airplane spins and hip bumps, Sherri & Savage running into each other and looking like incompetent goofs not former champions.

Rhodes vs Savage created some good exchanges, however they didn't have enough time to make up for the gimmick they were saddled with, the match was entertaining nonetheless I suppose, it was what it was and the crowd ate it up.

Savage ranting after the match (★ ★ ★ ★ ★) "suffering builds character and your gonna learn a whoole lot of character!!!" LMAO
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--The Orient Express vs The Rockers ★
Decent match. Nothing really wrong with it except the ending and how short it was.
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--Dino Bravo vs "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan DUD
A total mess, both these guys are slugs...

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--"The Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts ★ ★ ★
FINALLY a well worked, meaningful, full length match!! Good psychology early with Jake trying to end the match quickly. Ted is in all his heel splendor when in control making the crowd totally behind Roberts as a babyface in peril. Roberts big comeback was a little slow but considering that he's still selling DiBiase's beating its to be expected.

The finish wasn't any good but then again the heel went over, and good heels take a "win at all cost" stance most times. An enjoyable match, they probably could and have done better but in comparison to the card thus far its MOTN. The post-match DDT got a huge pop, the crowd needed that.
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--Akeem vs The Big Boss Man DUD
Despite DiBiase jumping him before the match Boss Man still made short work of an at least 400lb Akeem....just a total waste of time.
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--"Ravishing" Rick Rude vs "Superfly" Jimmy Snuka
★ 1/2

Pretty by the numbers but I like it. Some good back and forth with a definitive finish. Rude looked good but not dominant, and Snuka didn't look bad in a loss. It was a little short but that's par for the course on this event.

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--WWF World Heavyweight and Intercontinental Championship: World Wrestling Federation World Heavyweight Champion Hulk Hogan vs Intercontinental Champion The Ultimate Warrior
★ ★ ★ ★

The promos before the match are out of fuckin bounds. I'm not sure what they wrestling for, the title or the fans's love. If they politicking for the fans's love then Warrior wins, he wants to bring everyone together, Hogan wants to "save" Warrior & his fans on some cult leader shit...


As much as I dislike both these guys I would be lying if I said this doesn't feel BIG. I mean even after decades, this match endures when it comes to sheer atmosphere. Vince obviously put all his eggs in this match, he didn't even set up a decent plan B show stealer in case they didn't do well.


The test of strength is incredibly basic but the crowd and the story of two great powers colliding makes it meaningful. The minimalist approach of storytelling over workrate actually applies heavily obviously. The booking is dead even, with neither guy having any distinct advantage early on.


Hogan is being more aggressive, complaining to the ref and taking cheap shots, letting Warrior play face in peril. Warrior's big comeback doesn't have the crowd as riled as it should sadly, its an interesting dynamic to see how Hogan deals with someone no-selling and making a comeback during his offense but I guess they didn't get the irony.


Hogan busting up Warrior's 5 moves of doom was cool. I never peeped that before, the crowd seemed to like it too. The Gorilla Press of Hogan was pretty sloppy but Hogan is a big man. Hogan "hulking up" got the people a little more excited than Warrior's but there was still a big segment that didn't respond.

The finishing sequence was cool, of course Hogan kicking out to create the appearance of a fluke or controversy was actually useful if there was a rematch planned. I am a 100% full supporter of Hogan handing the title over to Warrior too....we know these things were probably done to appease Hogan's ego but they made for very good storytelling.


Warrior's coronation was well done with Hogan handing the title over and the fireworks going off at the end. It all made it feel special.




Gaaaaaaawdamn........



Man, you can easily DUD 95% of this card because of how short the matches are and how they end. I don't understand how anyone can complain about today's product and Wrestlemanias considering how poorly booked and worked this event was. This is the mess that's served when you only care about one match and making as much money as possible. The workrate at this event is damn near at a negative. Some of it was admittedly fun like the Mixed Tag & DiBiase/Roberts but the amount of disqualifications on this show alone are unacceptable. They had the talent to make this show matter but instead it was an abortion.


To say nice words about this event, Toronto seemed to really be having fun, which I guess is the goal at the end of the day but this event certainly doesn't stand the test of time in any measurable way outside of the Hogan-Warrior face-off.
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Slamming Duggan earns a big no-no from me.
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WWF Raw Is War 05/21/2001 - WWF World Tag Team Championship: Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin & Triple H (w/ Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley)

GOD DAMN! this match still holds up and is prob the greatest 15 minutes in RAW history. This match is mainly remembered for being the match where HHH tore his quad, but before the injury occurred, this was one of the best tag team matches I've ever seen. The action was hot all throughout and as the match progressed, the crowd got more into it with the realization that the Chris' might be able to pull it off. The ending of the match was one of the hottest endings I've ever seen in Raw history When Jericho goes for the Walls of Jericho On Austin but HHH goes in and hits Jericho from behind with a clotheslining (And tears his quad HHH goes to the outside and takes the monitors off the announcing table and attempts to pedigree Jericho, but Jericho counters it into the Walls of Jericho. In the ring, Benoit does the diving headbutt on Austin and covers but the referee was on the outside. Austin gets the stunner for the 2 count but Jericho drags out the referee. Lionsault on Austin. HHH grabs the sledge and was about to hit Jericho and hits Austin by accident and Jericho covers Austin and we got ourselves new Tag Team champions. ****3/4
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I remember Jericho talking about that match in his book saying it was one of the greatest RAW matches in history. I think he talked about the Benoit/Jericho Ladder match too saying it's such a shame that such great matches are basically erased from history now.
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WWF Smackdown 05/24/2001 - TLC III for the World Tag Team Championship: The Hardy Boyz vs. Edge & Christian vs. The Dudley Boyz vs. Two-Man Canadian Violence (Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit)

This is probably my favorite TLC match cause it's more then just big spot after big spot it told an AMAZING story of Benoit missing the headbutt through the table so he gets taken to the back with "Bruised or cracked ribs" so that would leave Jericho alone for most of the remaining match. but it seemed as if the numbers were going to be too much for him. Suddenly, Benoit came back out to the ring with his ribs taped up and showed some tremendous courage by fighting off members of the opposing teams, Oh and the spot with the CON-CHAIR-TO to the injured ribs after Benoit covered his head is still one of the top 10 greatest things EVER! This was a great match that lived up to the insanity of the previous TLC matches and what made it even better is that we got to see it for free. ****1/2
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NXT 1/3/13

1) Epico vs Bo Dallas ~ 1/2*


2) Tamina Snuka vs Sasha Banks ~ DUD


3) International Airstrike (Tyson Kidd & Justin Gabriel) vs Kassius Ohno & Leo Kruger ~ **


4) NXT Championship
Seth Rollins(c) vs Corey Graves ~ 3/4*

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NXT 1/10/13


1) Luke Harper & Erick Rowan vs Yoshi Tatsu & Percy Watson ~ SQUASH


2) Paige vs Emma ~ DUD


3) Primo Colon & Epico vs Michael McGillicutty & Bo Dallas ~ *


4) NXT Championship - No DQ Match
Seth Rollins(c) vs Big E. Langston ~ *



Neither contain any matches worth seeing. Still, each show gave me more entertainment than RAW or Smackdown usually do. NXT should deliver more as the year goes on. I'm confident in that. Rolling on with the 2013 stuff. Like I claimed I would. ~!
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I remember Jericho talking about that match in his book saying it was one of the greatest RAW matches in history. I think he talked about the Benoit/Jericho Ladder match too saying it's such a shame that such great matches are basically erased from history now.
Yeah, read that book last week actually and he basically gave Trips credit for an awesome performance, saying that Trips was the first guy to work classic WWE style matches with him. DAT 2000 TRIPS < ALL.

That ladder match is something to behold though, holy shit. Might be my greatest ladder match ever now that I think about it. Rewatched Summerslam 95 and Mania HBK-Razor matches and I'd put WM X higher this time. DA ORIGINAL
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