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Old 04-19-2012, 11:08 AM   #1391 (permalink)
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Plenty? I'd say a handful at best.
Ziggler
Daniel Bryan
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Chris Jericho
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CM Punk
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Randy Orton
Brock Lesnar
kofi Kingston

All of these guys could put on a classic if they were fighting Triple H and Shawn Michaels in a 30 minute match at Wrestlemania with the most built up story on the ppv.

Im not taking anything away from Taker, but just saying that some other guys could do the same thing if they were in his position.


And yes robertdeniro, Taker/Batista was a classic 15 minute match. I cant take anything away from that.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:16 AM   #1392 (permalink)
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Kofi Kingston? That guy couldn't have had a classic with Ric Flair in the 80's.

And I honestly wouldn't include HHH in the whole "30 mins at WM to have a classic with". Guy has been mediocre for the majority of his career and has failed to deliver at WM with anyone but Undertaker and Cena.
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The thing about having great matches that go that long is both guys need to be great together and if only when guy is great the other better be good at being led (i.e. Flair/Luger, Flair/Sting). Guys on the current roster that can pull off great 30 minutes or more - Taker (obviously), Cena, Punk, Bryan, Regal, and Triple H (from what we've seen with Taker at least). I think Mysterio, Jericho and Ziggler possibly could too.
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Kofi Kingston? That guy couldn't have had a classic with Ric Flair in the 80's.

And I honestly wouldn't include HHH in the whole "30 mins at WM to have a classic with". Guy has been mediocre for the majority of his career and has failed to deliver at WM with anyone but Undertaker and Cena.
HBK and he who shall not be named say hi. Plus his match with Sheamus was solid as well, for the time it was given.
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:11 PM   #1395 (permalink)
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Totally forgot about the WM XX triple threat. Damn WWE!

Sheamus match was solid, but nothing remotely special or memorable.
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Old 04-19-2012, 04:29 PM   #1396 (permalink)
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Ziggler
Daniel Bryan
Rey Mysterio
Sheamus
Chris Jericho
Jack Swagger
Christian
CM Punk
John Cena
Randy Orton
Brock Lesnar
kofi Kingston

All of these guys could put on a classic if they were fighting Triple H and Shawn Michaels in a 30 minute match at Wrestlemania with the most built up story on the ppv.

Im not taking anything away from Taker, but just saying that some other guys could do the same thing if they were in his position.


And yes robertdeniro, Taker/Batista was a classic 15 minute match. I cant take anything away from that.
Decent list but I would discount Ziggler, Kofi and Sheamus. Sheamus is a great worker but I haven't seen anything epic from him yet, from memory anyway.

I'd still only say a handful. Pick 10 for example, in a 60 strong roster. That's 16% of the roster, awful.

What Clique said about Chemisty is important. I mean look at Trips/Orton, they pushed that millions of times to work and it just never worked.

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Watching Survivor Series 2001 for the first time in 10 years. I love this PPV. One of my all time favs. The main event is just killer good.
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I thought Batista vs. Triple H was very good when H got busted open. Then again it followed Cena/JBL so I guess it just looks good in comparison.
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And I honestly wouldn't include HHH in the whole "30 mins at WM to have a classic with". Guy has been mediocre for the majority of his career and has failed to deliver at WM with anyone but Undertaker and Cena.
Disagree about HHH being mediocre for the majority of his career. He was great in 2000-2001, 2004-2005 and 2008, like one of the best workers in the company kinda great. His earlier stuff is pretty solid. '06 and '07 were interrupted by injuries. It's only '02 and '03 that I would call bad HHH years, and even those years he had the occasional standout match.

As for failing to deliver at Mania, I don't really buy that either. Taker (x3), Cena, WM20 triple threat all met or exceeded expectations. WM24 triple threat, Sheamus, Booker and Owen are good (aren't you quite high on the match with Booker?) and Batista is solid, especially considering how green Batista was at the time. It's only the main events against Jericho and Orton that disappointed, and I wouldn't even call either of them bad.
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