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Alberto Del Rio vs. The Big Show
World Heavyweight Championship - Last Man Standing
Friday Night Smackdown - 1/11/13


*** 3/4

A marvellous match, I must say. A great babyface performance from Del Rio, as well as the usual great monster heel schtick shown by The Big Show, both of which surrounded by an innovative and believably structure match makes this a legit TV MOTYC already. No by no means is this the perfect Last Man Standing match, and I doubt we'll see another (the one I'm talking about is HHH/Jericho). I adored the moment where Del Rio rolled out of the ring and on to his feet, even though he was completely out of it, but it still broke the count, and Show's reaction made it all that bit better. Speaking of which, Show's reactions to anything that doesn't go his way are amazing. Fuck, is it beyond reason to call him the GOAT big man? I dunno, but it'd be interesting to see people's lists of the best big men (say 325+ pounds? I dunno.) But yeah, Del Rio was on point with striking, and his work on the arm was nice and surprisingly works just as well when he's a face as it does when he's a heel. The finish was great, and JBL really put it over which was a bonus. Also, Ricardo's reaction and his announcement of ADR's name as the winner really put over their friendship, which is something that could get both men over crazily - How they're both so loyal to one another, even best friends, despite the fact that RR is on ADR's pay roll. I see Ricardo being a very interesting catalyst in Del Rio's future feuds.

Anyway - A top notch match which not only proved why Show is one of, if not THE, best big men ever, but it also has won me over as a face Del Rio fan. I'm hoping we don't see Ziggles cash in too soon, because I think this Del Rio and Big Show feud has some legs. Del Rio vs. Ziggler vs. Ryback at Wrestlemania maybe? I don't know. But for the moment, I'm going to enjoy this ADR title run and if this match is anything to go by, then it will definitely be a lot of fun.

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I'll have to check out this Del Rio/Show match, probably a top 3 match of Del Rios career by the looks of it lol.

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Alberto Del Rio vs. The Big Show
World Heavyweight Championship - Last Man Standing
Friday Night Smackdown - 1/11/13


*** 3/4

A marvellous match, I must say. A great babyface performance from Del Rio, as well as the usual great monster heel schtick shown by The Big Show, both of which surrounded by an innovative and believably structure match makes this a legit TV MOTYC already. No by no means is this the perfect Last Man Standing match, and I doubt we'll see another (the one I'm talking about is HHH/Jericho). I adored the moment where Del Rio rolled out of the ring and on to his feet, even though he was completely out of it, but it still broke the count, and Show's reaction made it all that bit better. Speaking of which, Show's reactions to anything that doesn't go his way are amazing. Fuck, is it beyond reason to call him the GOAT big man? I dunno, but it'd be interesting to see people's lists of the best big men (say 325+ pounds? I dunno.) But yeah, Del Rio was on point with striking, and his work on the arm was nice and surprisingly works just as well when he's a face as it does when he's a heel. The finish was great, and JBL really put it over which was a bonus. Also, Ricardo's reaction and his announcement of ADR's name as the winner really put over their friendship, which is something that could get both men over crazily - How they're both so loyal to one another, even best friends, despite the fact that RR is on ADR's pay roll. I see Ricardo being a very interesting catalyst in Del Rio's future feuds.

Anyway - A top notch match which not only proved why Show is one of, if not THE, best big men ever, but it also has won me over as a face Del Rio fan. I'm hoping we don't see Ziggles cash in too soon, because I think this Del Rio and Big Show feud has some legs. Del Rio vs. Ziggler vs. Ryback at Wrestlemania maybe? I don't know. But for the moment, I'm going to enjoy this ADR title run and if this match is anything to go by, then it will definitely be a lot of fun.
Glad someone else enjoyed this.

I thought Del Rio did really well as the face and I absolutely love him having Ricardo in his corner. It's going to help him really well in the long run since Ricardo is so popular and their friendship is likable. JBL absolutely owned calling that match. Del Rio's face run has impressed me more than literally everything he did as a heel.



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Orton vs. Foley in their Hardcore Match from Backlash 2004 is so underrated. Brilliant match. Brilliant feud. It's what brought Orton to the next level. Some of the best work both of those men have ever done.

That whole PPV was pretty fucking awesome, and was in my hometown!


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Orton-Foley is Orton's best match IMO (yes, better than the Benoit series) and a ton of that is due to Foley's willingness to go the extra mile in order to put his opponent over. Not alot of guys can job and job and job and give as much back to the business as possible while still staying popular and Foley is the best at this, along with Jericho of course. I also believe that even though Foley-Orton rocked, I'd still put HHH-HBK-Benoit II over this by a considerable margin even though they hold the same SNOWFLAKES in my book (**** 1/2).

Over the last 10 years, I think Foley has come back only to beat like one guy and that's Carlito. Since Carlito fucking SUCKS, I was completely cool with it. Case one of Carlito sucking ; Carlito vs Kennedy vs Umaga from Summerslam 2007, which I just watched........... AND IT FUCKING SUCKS. Kennedy is one of the worst workers in WWE history though so maybe it's not Carlto's fault. Umaga did all he could do for those too pieces of shit unfortunately





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Orton-Foley is Orton's best match IMO (yes, better than the Benoit series) and a ton of that is due to Foley's willingness to go the extra mile in order to put his opponent over. Not alot of guys can job and job and job and give as much back to the business as possible while still staying popular and Foley is the best at this, along with Jericho of course. I also believe that even though Foley-Orton rocked, I'd still put HHH-HBK-Benoit II over this by a considerable margin even though they hold the same SNOWFLAKES in my book (**** 1/2).

Over the last 10 years, I think Foley has come back only to beat like one guy and that's Carlito. Since Carlito fucking SUCKS, I was completely cool with it. Case one of Carlito sucking ; Carlito vs Kennedy vs Umaga from Summerslam 2007, which I just watched........... AND IT FUCKING SUCKS. Kennedy is one of the worst workers in WWE history though so maybe it's not Carlto's fault. Umaga did all he could do for those too pieces of shit unfortunately
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But yeah, I wouldn't say he sucked, but I definitely can't remember a match of his that I would call "great". A useful hand, good for filler feuds, tag teams and/or enhancement talent, but I don't think he was good enough to hold the US/IC titles, especially with the depth of the roster at the time he won them at (05-07). I also agree with Kennedy, I absolutely can't stand the guy. He's used the same old schtick for close to eight years now, and it wasn't even that good in the first place.

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When Kennedy stopped feuding with The Undertaker. I stopped caring about his character & matches for the most part. Although he's had a couple matches with Angle in TNA in 2010 that I enjoyed (the ladder and cage matches). Then there was the HBK feud in late 07-early 08.


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WWE Smackdown 01/11/2013 - Last Man Standing Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Big Show vs. Alberto Del Rio (w/Ricardo Rodriguez)

These two delivered a good match. The entire match was "spot, wait for count, set up spot, repeat" but that's what you're going to get from a Last Man Standing match. They did a good job telling the story of Alberto being unable to get the big man grounded and found a logical way to end the match. Good stuff. I think i would of enjoyed this more it WWE didn't spoiled it by announcing it on their website, Facebook and Twitter. This match was actually very well booked and allowed Del Rio to shine as best he can against Show. As I've said before, Del Rio will do better as a babyface since he can utilize his flashy Lucha offense much more often which people love to cheer for. ***1/2 I should add the roll put to the floor is one of the smartest things done in some time, cause normally wrestlers would try to stand up in the ring but for Del Rio to roll out onto his feet did make me mark. And then the finish with the announce table, GENIUS!

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Orton-Foley is Orton's best match IMO (yes, better than the Benoit series) and a ton of that is due to Foley's willingness to go the extra mile in order to put his opponent over. Not alot of guys can job and job and job and give as much back to the business as possible while still staying popular and Foley is the best at this, along with Jericho of course. I also believe that even though Foley-Orton rocked, I'd still put HHH-HBK-Benoit II over this by a considerable margin even though they hold the same SNOWFLAKES in my book (**** 1/2).
I COMPLETELY agree. Jericho, Foley, Shawn Michaels and Rey Mysterio are really the only people who pulled this off. Very rare select few people that can lose and lose and lose all the time, but still get the crowd to be extremely attached to them. Speaks to their characters really.

Just wondering, what was everybody on here's rating to the Christian/Del Rio Ladder Match from Extreme Rules 2011? I thought it was a BRILLIANT match and one of the best matches of the year. ****1/2

Infact, Del Rio/Christian really had some great matches. I remember they had a great Cage match on SmackDown before WrestleMania XXVII. Christian went over clean against Del Rio too

They really should've made it a Triple Threat between Edge/Christian/Del Rio at Mania


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