[Obfuscation]

Thunderdome wasn't bad. It seems to be a match fans either got into or they didn't. Cream of the crop at Halloween Havoc though is obvious. You know where I'm going with it when we're talking about bad gimmicks. Chambers of Horrors from 1991 of course. Points for thinking outside of the box, but oh my. It's beyond outlandish. Sometimes it's awesome to watch all of those matches though. Don't know why, but it really can be. I love this stuff too much I guess that even the bad matches have appeal haha.

[SpookshowTony]

Just looked up what the Coal Miner's Glove match was and it's a fucking "( ) on a pole" match? Really? Really?

[That Guy]

Am I the only one that feels that the Backlash 2003 match between Cena and Lesnar was up their, on par with their 2012 match?

[Chismo]

1) John Cena vs Dolph Ziggler ~ DUD

Hell yes.

[Dopesick]

May have to get all the Nitros from 1996 up to 1998. There was a YouTube user who had all the Nitros from 95 up to 97 but I checked just this very minute and about 90%have been deleted. Gash.

[Callamus]

Originally Posted by Clique

Cal/anyone have you seen Undertaker/Vader Casket Match from MSG in 1997? Thoughts? I didn't know they had this match.

Its ok. Short, nothing special. About **.

[Wig Splitter]

Originally Posted by Clique

Cal/anyone have you seen Undertaker/Vader Casket Match from MSG in 1997? Thoughts? I didn't know they had this match.

It's a 5 minute squash match that happened during the first 15 years of Undertaker's career (i.e. he's absolute shit in every way concievable). Oh, and it ends in an interference by Mankind and the Mandible Claw. :cuenca

[ShowStopper '97]

WCW in 1996 rocked. Love the Jericho/Benoit match from Fall Brawl '96. Fun match. Give it a solid ****.

[WOOLCOCK]

1996 WCW is probably my favourite of the later years. '89-94 is the peak, but 1996 for me is far better than 1998-2001. 1997 has a few gems, namely Eddie having arguably a career year as well as the DDP vs Savage feud which produced a consistent run of great matches.

Originally Posted by SpookshowTony

Just looked up what the Coal Miner's Glove match was and it's a fucking "( ) on a pole" match? Really? Really?

The stipulation itself is ridiculous. However everything makes sense in the context of the feud and the match itself is an excellent blowoff to a heated feud. The tuxedos come about from a best dressed man contest earlier in the feud and Dibiase had used the loaded glove to screw over Duggan and the majority of the Mid South roster throughout the feud. The cage as well obviously ensured the LLT match would be one on one, with no distractions, interference and essentially allowing the best man to win.

I've only seen the match itself a couple of times, but when I get the Mid South set I can't wait to watch the feud play out as the backstory is explained and the build to the final Cage match is often acclaimed as some of the best booking in wrestling history.

Originally Posted by That Guy

Am I the only one that feels that the Backlash 2003 match between Cena and Lesnar was up their, on par with their 2012 match?

Nah, never thought the Backlash 2003 match was that good and ER 2012 would probably make a top 15 WWF/E list for me. Maybe Cena's best performance of his career in terms of bumping, selling, building sympathy, making his situation look hopeless and timing his comebacks to perfection. Lesnar is right there with him as the unleashed monster hellbent on massacring Cena, and his subtle but excellent selling of Cena's comebacks gets overlooked too much. The expression he makes after Cena does the Backlund deadlift counter out of the Kimura onto the steps may actually be the best part of the match. He looks shellshocked and for the first time lets down his guard to show a sign of weakness and injury whilst trying to regroup immediately. His punch drunk selling following the chain shot was pretty spectacular as well.

[The Beast Incarnate]

If I'm making my picks for best control segment in a match, as well as the best selling job in a match, I'm going with Lesnar on both accounts. The Extreme Rules control segment was so unique by today's standards as Brock made us actually invest in his BEAST of a character, maybe because of the reason that we know in real life he could murder everybody in the locker room. We KNOW things about him that we don't know about every other performer, and that makes it easier for me to invest personally. The subtle things he did in the match with his body language was just amazing and honestly I don't think we'll ever see something like that ever again. Taker-Brock could make that magic happen, trust me.

Brock's selling in the HHH Summerslam match is something that the guys in the back should be taking notes of. AGAIN, we know that Brock has had stomach issues, and maybe a ton of this goes to Trips who probably planned this out in the back, but what a fucking smart strategy. Brock sells that shit like a champ, the way he looks at Heyman and begins spitting up shit was insane, the moment he yelled out "my stomach" I KNEW some shit just went down. How the hell can anybody hate on that match when it features some of the best selling I've seen in the E' ?

Still say that Brock's heel control segment is the GOAT. Seriously. I love the Backlash match and I have it at *** 1/4 , but it doesn't fucking come close to BREATHING the same air as the Extreme Rules match, which is currently my #10 WWE match of all time. The HHH match would be around 50ish I do believe.