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Old 01-10-2013, 07:07 PM   #13771 (permalink)
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the whole heel thing is dying concept

not enough wrestlers are dicks anymore. they just cheat. fuck off, eddie G cheated and he was epic

JBL and trip had the 'acting like dicks' thing mastered like an art. they didnt just beat the shit out of someone in a match, they degraded them
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:10 PM   #13772 (permalink)
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Savage in his matches with Steamboat was excellent heel work. Hell, Savage's extensive control segment is the primary reason the main event at WrestleMania 5 with Hogan was so good.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:12 PM   #13773 (permalink)
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Pretty much Redead. Nothing gets the time to flow or develop anymore. Everything's either rushed to make time for a segment or they just milk the middle section of the match with basic holds and no real development and just rely on a couple of eye-catching counters in the finishing stretch to rescue the match. Even looking back at someone like Mcintyre in 2010 and how much he'd get out a control segment. A structure and flow was created, things mattered and were built to, the comeback felt like something special because of the work Mcintyre put in to keeping control and everything just felt cohesive and meaningful.

Nowadays they cut to commercial at the beginning of a match or even worse during the heat segment and return minutes before the babyface comeback. Matches as a whole just struggle to build into a clear 3 part arc at the moment. Its one of the reasons I'm still far lower on Ziggler than others. His matches just don't feel important or impactful until they hit the finishing stretch and start trading counters.

@ Clique. Can't forget the 1985 LLT match vs Lawler either. Savage works so well as the maniac mangling Lawler that the clear build and payoff manages to be one of the most emotional and engaging comebacks in Lawler's career, like he literally has a now or never moment to win the match or concede his career to this rambling lunatic who'll probably castrate you if he sees fit, let alone pin you.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:12 PM   #13774 (permalink)
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i cant watch wrestlemania 5's main event

its one of the few matches that hurts me to watch

so much work, so much effort, so much damage, it was so good..... and then hogan doesnt give a fuck, comes back, 1,2,3 and boom, takes a giant shit on around 20 minutes of work by savage.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:14 PM   #13775 (permalink)
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Agreed w/ Redead on the JBL/Trips mastery. 2004-Early 2005 was some awesome character work both on the mic and in the ring. JBL goose stomping in Germany is FUCKING PRICELESS. Trips was getting EPIC heat due to BURYING accusations as well as BEATING UP RETARDS.

Agreed w/ Clique as well. Both Wrestlemania V and III had such good Savage matches due to his ability to immerse himself into a character, but where WM III was about the Steamboat comeback and nearfalls throughout the match, WM V was all about the Savage control segments, which garnered mad heat and made Hogan look like a BO$$ in perhaps Hogan's best match ever.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:24 PM   #13776 (permalink)
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So I can finally claim to have watched the entire Batista/Taker series as I had CS still left. Am a bit sleepy but I did manage to watch the whole match.

WM23 - ★★★★
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:27 PM   #13777 (permalink)
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Anyone else with wcw 1995-1996 love?
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Anyone else with wcw 1995-1996 love?
Hi . Love the undercard in 95/96 during the Nitro days. Main event usually sucks balls. Not even Flair could make much out of Hogan, Sting, an over the hill Savage etc.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:39 PM   #13779 (permalink)
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I've been enjoying the undercard more now. When I was younger I was a mark of STING, GOLDBERG etc...DDP too.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:53 PM   #13780 (permalink)
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i just discovered hogan/bret, austin/savage and hhh/steamboat all happened

was blown away
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