Originally Posted by The Lady Killer
I would never.
Cena's comebacks are fucking terrible on paper as well but his at least evoke a bit of a dramatic element when in the right environment and with the right opponent, whereas Orton's always seems to lack any sort of effort or real meaning beyond simply going through the motions.
As I said, its all down to the work in the middle section of the match. Selling the beating, making your situation look hopeless and desperate, milking the workover and timing certain mini comebacks to draw the crowd into your revival and then timing the comeback to illicit that reaction.
In many ways the best wrestling comebacks are the ones that play to a formula. It draws a viewer in because they know what's coming, seeing Lawler drop down the straps and unload with great punch after great punch was what every fan in the building wanted to see. Part of Lawler's innate charm is that he can work typically a very similar finishing stretch in most of his matches, built around punches, the fist drop and the piledriver but still find ways to sell and create an emotional attachment during the middle of the match so his comeback feels earned and more importantly something the fans want to see.
When you play to a formula you've got to be able to try and find ways to keep fans invested and interested in spite of not changing up the bulk of your final offence. Sadly Orton doesn't really create an emotional investment and his comebacks never feel like he's pulled the match back from the brink. This also stems from a lot of WWE heels today not really working a great control segment. Most of them feel like an extension of the match and just quietly progressing to the finishing stretch, rather than seeking to create heat on the heel and work the crowd into a frenzy.
@ Yeah1993: tbh I always look at the best Cena comebacks in the eyes of the young fans. Obviously stuff like the Lesnar match highlights how great he is at selling the beating and making you feel like any comeback is something truly earnt, but even at its worst I find at least a sense of urgency in his comeback rather than Orton's languid moving about the ring at a pace that kills any sense of excitement or unpredictability. Both suffer though from the heels of today being pretty piss poor generally at constructing a compelling heat segment. Is there a babyface going in WWE whose comebacks 90% of the time don't just feel like they're meandering into the finishing stretch? I want to say Rey because of the way he continually bumps and makes himself look so vulnerable, Christian as well as Masters probably fitted into that category when they were working TV every week as well. Last one I can really think of was Punk vs Henry and Sheamus vs Show HIAC in terms of a babyface clearly structuring the match around his comeback and onslaught.