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post #13721 of 20566 (permalink) Old 01-10-2013, 05:25 PM
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Orton/Barrett matches never had a chance. Orton is dull as fuck, and Barrett is untalented AND dull as fuck.


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The same type of feeling whenever somebody mentions Punk and I just wait for Choke2Death to join the conversation and bury him in some way, shape, or form. I was waiting for him to post a "Top 5 workers in the company" just so he could BURY Punk some more
Is not praising him considered burying?

Top 5 workers: (beware of my ignorance when it comes to some newer names such as Cesaro)

- Bryanson
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- Fruity Pebble
- Kerwin White's Caddy

Would have also considered KIDD had he been given more of a chance to wrestle. From what little I've seen, he's absolute fire! And excluding Mysterio since he's way past his peak.
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Looking forward to Del Rio/Show on tomorrow's Smackdown. Haven't seen Del Rio wrestle as a face but I think that could be a good dynamic.
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Kidd's fine in his role of lowercard guy working great looking athletic spots, but he can't be called close to a 'great' worker at the moment for me. Not much depth to him outside of some really good offence, but for me Bourne is just as good at delivering spectacular looking offence whilst being able to bump, sell and build an all round match much better than Kidd. Not necessarily knocking Kidd, since he gets next to no opportunities and you can tell is just trying to catch the eye of management and the fans whenever he gets a chance to wrestle, but Bourne's far and away better than him on evidence so far.

Agreed Saint Dick , he hasn't really cut it as the heel worker so having him keep his signature offence and bump around a lot more could be a plus. He struck me as being a really underrated bumper and I think he could surprise a few people. Doesn't strike me as a natural babyface, but if they want to recreate more of a 'tougher' face like Orton I think he's definitely a far better bumper and got more impactful and creative offence than Orton.
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Agreed Saint Dick , he hasn't really cut it as the heel worker so having him keep his signature offence and bump around a lot more could be a plus. He struck me as being a really underrated bumper and I think he could surprise a few people. Doesn't strike me as a natural babyface, but if they want to recreate more of a 'tougher' face like Orton I think he's definitely a far better bumper and got more impactful and creative offence than Orton.
Exactly. Some of the problems I had with Del Rio's matches will completely disappear now that he's a face. Show also strikes me as a good opponent for him.

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- RKO
- Fruity Pebble
- Kerwin White's Caddy
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Yup. He didn't do much wrong in terms of structure and ensuring things flowed well throughout a match, but he just didn't have the spark someone like Mcintyre did when working a control segment. Even someone like Miz in the NOC match vs Bryan had far more engaging limbwork, though I think part of the charm there was the novelty of fucking Miz working an interesting limb dissection + Bryan selling like an absolute champ.

Show's been good as the monster heel, though I'd kill to see Henry return and immediately pick up where he left off.
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yeaaaaaaaah.

I don't understand the Orton hate AT ALL. His character may be dull but his wrestling definitely isn't.
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Different strokes for different folks. To me he's the proof that a formula really can kill a wrestler. He can sell an injury well, but I like a babyface to truly sell and make me invested in his beating and eventual comeback. Orton like a lot of WWE babyfaces has the typical string of moves comeback, but I don't think he sells, bumps or communicates sympathy nearly as well as someone like Cena, Mysterio, Bryan, Bourne or even Sheamus when he's being worked over and that's the difference imo.

Cena's comebacks can be pretty bad in terms of the way he effortlessly hits moves, but I regard that generally as a staple of the WWE babyface comeback and I focus more on his selling during the middle part of the match which I think he excells at. That's not to say the odd match and comeback from him isn't ridiculously bad in spite of his middle match selling, the I Quit match vs Miz immediately springs to mind there.

Also its not even 'hate' with Orton. He just elicits no response from me these days.
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Yeah, I'm an Orton fan but his comebacks are ridiculous. Clothesline, clothesline, stand there, duck a clothesline, powerslam. Not to mention he seriously buries EVERY WRESTLER with constant offense whenever it's some sort of no dq/no holds barred, etc. Summerslam vs. Christian, Extreme Rules vs. Punk, & Extreme Rules again against Kane.

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To me, Orton is just there. I don't get excited when he appears on my TV screen, but I also don't change the channel. In other words, I couldn't give much of a fuck whether he comes or goes.





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I'm a fan of Orton and he's great in the ring, but I'm not usually invested in his matches. Hell, I feel this "lull in time" during his matches only to snap out of it when he does the powerslam or "RKO from outta nowhere!"
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