[Starbuck]

Orton/Christian 2011 anyone? Their matches at OTL, Summerslam and that one on SD were all fantastic. Orton also had that cracker with Cody Rhodes in late 2011. But yes, he was total shit all of last year. Seems like he just doesn't care anymore which is a shame. Maybe this heel turn will rejuvenate him. As a mark for the guy, I sure as hell hope so.

[Gamblor]

Hm... is it just my pc, or did a page disappear from this thread?

[Obfuscation]

Nope, it's the same for me too. Page is gone.

Orton vs Christian certainly was a highlight for Orton in 2011. It's why I decided not to crap much on his work that year. Feud sucked, but boy did all of their matches deliver. High energy and just so awesome. 2 PPV matches vs Punker I liked too. I'm one of the few who actually liked his match vs Miz @ Rumble 2011, Henry carried him to some good matches, & Orton vs Rhodes Street Fight from 11/4 owns. I do believe that's all he had going for him that year. Still, it blew away his 2012.

All I want is for him to actually have a personality again. I don't think a heel turn will magically do it. He needs to stop being awful first. Plain and simple. Cut the droll "I don't play well with others" crap and get back to being COCKY. I just watched Orton vs Mysterio from No Way Out 2006 yesterday. Loved it. It was great. You know why? b/c of Orton's swarmy, disrespectful character. It was wonderful. He has the capabilities of pulling that out. Only it's fallen away. Why? I'll never know. You got to chuckle when going face hurts him so much. It doesn't fit. Although, I'll gladly take outlandish happy face Orton circa 2004 - early 2005 over what we have now.

[Big Z]

Speaking of Orton and shit matches (lol), I am NOT looking forward to this potential Sheamus feud. Sheamus I love, but Orton... urgh. Assuming he actually turns heel for it, he NEEDS to be COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY DIFFERENT in every conceivable way to make their matches work.

[The Beast Incarnate]

Match was terrible. Only two good things about it were Finlay's epic kick to LB's face while wearing Hornswoggle's hat, and JBL's EPIC commentary. I can't bring myself to give it anything higher than a DUD. Worst FINLAY match ever ? I do believe so

Orton-Barrett in 2010 is the worst main event program there has been in quite some time..... Going through my head now to try and figure out what has been worse (I mean a feud with multiple MAIN EVENTS behind it).

[Saint Dick]

Top 5 WWE workers right now in no order:

- Daniel Bryan
- CM Punk
- Sheamus
- John Cena
- Dolph Ziggler

[Obfuscation]

Originally Posted by Big Z

Speaking of Orton and shit matches (lol), I am NOT looking forward to this potential Sheamus feud. Sheamus I love, but Orton... urgh. Assuming he actually turns heel for it, he NEEDS to be COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY DIFFERENT in every conceivable way to make their matches work.

Fat chance of that happening at this rate. I'm hoping though.

Originally Posted by KingOfKings

Match was terrible. Only two good things about it were Finlay's epic kick to LB's face while wearing Hornswoggle's hat, and JBL's EPIC commentary. I can't bring myself to give it anything higher than a DUD. Worst FINLAY match ever ? I do believe so

Orton-Barrett in 2010 is the worst main event program there has been in quite some time..... Going through my head now to try and figure out what has been worse (I mean a feud with multiple MAIN EVENTS behind it).

At least it was meant to be a comedy match. It's why I don't have any HATE towards it like I do the other matches I listed from the PPV.

Diesel vs Sid matches from 1995 wins. Oh wait. No it doesn't. The worst main event program is Triple H vs Scott Steiner series.

[Clique]

Originally Posted by Saint Dick

Top 5 WWE workers right now in no order:

- Daniel Bryan
- CM Punk
- Sheamus
- John Cena
- Dolph Ziggler

That's about right. If Christian and Mysterio were well they would be in there.

[The Beast Incarnate]

Orton/Christian

First SD Match : *** 1/2
Over The Limit : **** 1/4
Capitol Punishment : *** 3/4
Money in the Bank : *** 1/2
Summerslam : **** 1/4
STEEL CAGE : *** 1/2

If I were to rank them it'd go like this ;

Over The Limit
Summerslam
Capitol Punishment
STEEL CAGE
Money in the Bank
SMACKDOWN

TOP FIVE WORKERZ TODAYYYYY

CM Punk
Daniel Bryan
John Cena
Big Show
Sheamus

[Obfuscation]

@ Big Show getting a mention.

I'd toss in Cesaro on my list. He makes squash matches work every week. He's such a boss.