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**The Lady Killer** · 01-10-2013, 01:49 PM

I used to think Sheamus was garbage as well but he has definitely proved me wrong lately. I still can't stand his Cena-esque persona and shitty promo ability, but he's quite a beast in the ring.

**The Beast Incarnate** · 01-10-2013, 01:50 PM

He's had some pretty DAMN good matches in the last year or so. His match with DOLPH at No Way Out 2012 was one of the most underrated contests of the year, and I can't fucking wait to watch the Main Event match once I'm done with NWO 2007. His matches vs Big Show and vs Bryan are some of the best contests of 2012 now.... Confident that a Sheamus-Orton match at Wrestlemania would fucking rule and most of that would be because of Sheamus, even though I'm a big time fan of FACE Orton.

NWO 2007 has such a kick-ass opener. Benoit/Hardyz vs MVP/MNM is basically a Benoit showcase where he destroys everybody for like 20 minutes straight. Mercury taps to the crossface in like a MILLASECOND. WATCH IT. Fuck I miss Benoit. *** 1/4

**Obfuscation** · 01-10-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Bag

As hard as I try, I struggle to watch a match with Sheamus and really enjoy it.

I find this baffling. Sheamus has been the workhorse of the entire company for the last...7 months or so. Maybe longer. He's the only guy's whose matches on TV are worth seeing every week. He's great.

Orton vs Cesaro. I'm down. Only b/c it's desperately what Orton needs: a new opponent. Every Orton match is the same, so HOPEFULLY vs a new opponent that standard crap Orton formula won't go down. Cesaro is the man. If he can make tossing around Kofi Kingston watchable, than I'm sure he'll mold something worthwhile from the drone known as Randy Orton.

**The Lady Killer** · 01-10-2013, 02:13 PM

Toss Orton in the air for a VERY European Uppercut, plz.

**Clique** · 01-10-2013, 02:13 PM

Orton and Cesaro should have an exchange of European uppercuts at some point in their match next week.

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Originally Posted by Hailsabin

I find this baffling. Sheamus has been the workhorse of the entire company for the last...7 months or so. Maybe longer. He's the only guy's whose matches on TV are worth seeing every week. He's great.

I think it's understandable if you just can't get into a wrestler's character it makes it hard for that person to get into his matches. I've read people say the same thing for guys like Cena or in your case Orton.

zep81 · 01-10-2013, 02:14 PM

Batista vs Undertaker:

WM23 - **** 1/2
Backlash (LMS) - ****
Smackdown (Cage) - ***3/4 (could have been a bit more if WWE shown the full match)
Cyber Sunday - **** 1/4

Gotta watch the HIAC soon.

**Obfuscation** · 01-10-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Clique

I think it's understandable if you just can't get into a wrestler's character it makes it hard for that person to get into his matches. I've read people say the same thing for guys like Cena or in your case Orton.

Guess I got my Sheamus goggles on. b/c whenever he's on I'm always into his work. It's no secret I've been huge on the guy for years now.

Orton is a frustrating case. Used to be such a mark for him until late 2010. From then my interest has gone straight downhill. As has his work too, imo. Only matches that seem to be worth anything lately, ironically enough for the prior topic ^, vs Sheamus. Oh, and vs Kane. That deserves a mention. I liked all of their matches from 2012.

Other than vs Kane & the match vs Sheamus on Smackdown I don't think I liked anything else Orton did during 2012. Maybe one of the matches vs Danielson too. Nothing there anymore. Everything that was strong about him has evaporated.

**The Beast Incarnate** · 01-10-2013, 02:28 PM

The Orton-Barrett Series SUCKS. Sucked in 2010, sucked in 2011, sucked in 2012, and I'm sure it will suck in 2013.

Just witnessed Finlay/Hornswoggle vs Boogeyman/Little Boogeyman. One of the worst matches I've ever seen, but it ALMOST (notice I said ALMOST) escapes DUD status due to JBL's GOAT commentary about how ridiculous and stupid it is

**Gamblor** · 01-10-2013, 02:32 PM

I thought Orton/Barrett in 2011 was good, and their series in 2012 was decent as well. 2010 though was abysmal, but the more I think about it, I partly put the blame on that on the extreme focus of Cena in the feuds/matches that it overshadowed what Barrett and Orton were doing. That being said, I don't think the match quality in those matches was anywhere near as good as in 2011 or 2012, but they looked worse than they actually were.

**Obfuscation** · 01-10-2013, 02:33 PM

I recall it being funny. And better than the WWE Tag & ECW Championship matches on the same show.

I credit Finlay.