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Old 01-08-2013, 09:05 PM   #13551 (permalink)
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Trying to come up with a new way to rate PPVs as a whole, so I decided to steal the "CAL SCALE" and just add a few different things to make it more efficient

Points System

SHIT (DUD-* 1/2) : -1
Below Average(* 3/4-** 1/4) : 0
Average (** 1/2-** 3/4) : 0.5
Solid (***) : 1
Good (*** 1/4-*** 1/2) : 2
Great (*** 3/4-****) : 3.5
Classic (**** 1/4) : 4
EPIC (**** 1/2+) : 6
MOTY : +2

Survivor Series 2007

CM Punk vs The Miz vs John Morrison : ***

5 on 5 Divas Tag : DUD

Hardcore Holly/Cody Rhodes vs Lance Cade/Trevor Murdoch : **

Triple H/Jeff Hardy/Rey Mysterio/Kane vs Umaga/Finlay/MVP/Ken Kennedy/Big Daddy V : ***

The Great Khali vs Hornswoggle : DUD

Randy Orton vs Shawn Michaels : ****

Batista vs The Undertaker (Hell in a Cell) : ****

Overall Score : 7.5

There's going to be some tweaking here and there of this formula, but for right now it looks pretty solid as this show was pretty damn great, but points were taken away due to there being a duo of REALLY SHITTY matches on this. Double main event was fantastic as expected with Orton-Michaels being one of Orton's finest contests, take my hat off to both men for their performance. Batista-Taker is a really underrated cell match that doesn't get talked about EVER for some reason and I don't know why, what a fucking war it was. Batista Bomb table spot was kinda stupid.

Survivor Series Tag was pretty good (I'm a sucker for those matches honestly) and the opener was awesome for MIZ standards. Great show all around here, gonna see how it compares to some others as we move forward
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:08 PM   #13552 (permalink)
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John Cena vs JBL for the WWE championship: ****1/2. While this match isn't anything special, it's still a great brawl between John Cena and JBL. It was an all-out WAR between the two with all of the blood-shed. This match was brutal, intense, and got Cena over as a top face right around the time where the WWE needed a fresh face to fill the void after Brock Lesnar left and Cena was that guy. This match was JBL and John Cena's best match with one another and a BIG step-up from their dull match at WrestleMania 21. Great I Quit match and a great way to end off their feud.

Final rating: 5/10. Besides the awesome main event between John Cena and JBL over the WWE championship, the Eddie vs Rey Mysterio match, and the solid Booker T vs Kurt Angle match, this PPV felt like a 2005 episode of Smackdown. Now I get that not every match needs to be 5-star worthy and that some matches have to be filler to fill in time but the rest of the card felt either thrown together or uninteresting. Given the lack of star-power on the Smackdown brand, this PPV would have benefited if this PPV wasn't Smackdown exclusive and that the Raw brand was featured on the PPV as well. I'm not saying that the brand exclusive PPVs were all horrible but some of it suffered because of the lack of depth in the roster and this PPV was an example of a lack of depth in the Smackdown roster back in 2005. Average PPV with an underwhelming card overall.
That Cena/JBL paragraph sorta contradicts itself, wouldn't ya say? **** 1/2 is a pretty high rating for a match that isn't anything special...
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Got to disagree with this statement, this is the match that MADE Cena, others may argue that but this is where Cena became a main eventer, it was a war, brutal and electric.

Love this match i'd stick with ****1/2
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That Cena/JBL paragraph sorta contradicts itself, wouldn't ya say? **** 1/2 is a pretty high rating for a match that isn't anything special...
I'll admit, I think that the 'It isn't anything special' line could have been re-worded better but I still don't consider JBL vs John Cena to be a classic. However, I gave that match a ****1/2 because it made Cena a top star like Ever Wolf stated. Also adding to the fact that the match was brutal and intense but not enough for me to consider it a classic. The same goes for Triple H vs Batista's Hell in a Cell match at Vengeance 05. I'd give that a high rating for it being the match that made Batista a credible babyface World champion after having the torch passed to him by Triple H. Not to mention their Hell in a Cell match being one hell (no pun intended) of a Hell in a Cell match but I wouldn't give it a ***** because I don't consider that match to be a classic either.
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This. The moment after he had a split-second breakdown and Superkicked Taker with Taker kicking out is priceless. He legit looked like he was in sheer and utter agony.
Deffo. Another nice touch I noticed was after the match when Taker and HBK had helped HHH up the ramp, there's a moment when Trips comes to his senses a bit and looks at Taker like 'WTF are you doing? Why are you helping me?'

It'd be great to have a behind-the-scenes DVD one day where we see what they did after disappearing behind the curtain as well. I'd love to see how wrestlers interact after big matches like that. Are they complimenting or criticising each other on certain moves they did or back-slapping and high-fiving or what.
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Are they complimenting or criticising each other on certain moves they did or back-slapping and high-fiving or what.
HHH: Hey Mark, you were a bit rough out there, especially with those chair shots.
Taker: What are you gonna do, suspend me for a month? lol.
HHH: How about I book myself to end your streak next year?
Taker: Good luck with that, but I thought you were burying Brock next year in your rematch after you tap out to him at Summerslam?
HHH: ...
*Vince McMahon struts in*
Vince: Oh that's fine. Paul, if you want, I'll put you against both Taker and Brock in a handicap match next year at Mania.
HHH: Am I going over?
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Pretty sure JoeRulz gave it 1 star and called it "being generous".
Yep... Fuck that match. I didn't give it DUD because I felt sorry for Daniel Bryan.
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MITB 2012:

SD MITB: **1/2
Fella/ADR: ***1/4
PTP/P&E: **
Punk/Bryan: ***1/2
Ryback/Squashees: Bleargh
Divas tag: Bleargh
RAW MITB: **1/2

Pretty much the definition of an average show. 2 good matches, 3 solid matches and 2 urgh, why did I watch that matches.
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Why are people shitting on Bryan/Punk MITB?
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Why are people shitting on Bryan/Punk MITB?
I don't know. Maybe because it sucked?
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Gonna need a 5000 word essay detailing the reasons it sucks.
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