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post #13451 of 20566 (permalink) Old 01-07-2013, 06:35 PM
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Can't see you disliking it. Its a really great take and evolution of the MITB encounter with Punk being in the reverse position from a year ago as the champion trying to overcome Cena. There's a bit of contention with the finishing stretch, but personally I thought they timed and paced the nearfalls very well with only one exception. Not as good as MITB, but the usual Punk/Cena chemistry shines again.

I'd have Lesnar/Cena, Punk/Bryan, Sheamus/Show & Bryan/Sheamus definitely ahead of it. I'd also probably have Ambrose/Regal II from personal preference, but any other match would require serious consideration. Basically its great stuff.
John Cena vs. CM Punk(c) - Night of Champions 2012

Meh I'm not with you on this one at all lol. Everything was going great up until the finishing stretch. It actually reminded me of the HHH/Cena match from NOC 08 where Trips had a counter for most of Cena's moves and they were checkmating each other all the way through. Unlike that match however, the ending to this was contrived beyond belief and started to annoy me. It made me roll my eyes if I'm being honest. Finisher, kickout, finisher, kickout, finisher, kickout. That's literally what it was. Usually I don't mind that, if it fits with the story, but this felt contrived as hell to me this time. I knew they were going to kickout. What ever happened to finishers actually finishing matches, huh? All they did here was undermine their own moves. MITB had those intangibles surrounding it so the finisher kickouts truly felt like something special. These ones though, way too forced imo. Cena kicked out of 2 GTS and a Rock Bottom back to back and this is just a regular wrestling match. Then there was the random back suplex to end the match because Cena goes for that move all the time. There was some great stuff in there though and Punk's gear was pretty awesome. I loved a lot of the counters. That's one thing Punk/Cena excel at imo. Their counters to the others moves are always fun to watch.

I'd go **** for this. Like I said before, had the finishing stretch not been so retarded, this could have kicked into another gear. Unfortunately, it didn't. Not for me anyways.


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ok more matches.

Bret vs Owen cage
Bret vs Austin Survivor Series 1996
Shawn vs Foley mind games
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I agree vis a vis the finish. There are better ways to end a match and whilst I liked them trying to be creative with the finish, it was executed pretty badly and after everything before it felt like a very tame way to end the match. I didn't mind the kickouts tbh. It wasn't as good as MITB in terms of suspense, but tbh its a staple of WWE Main Events and I thought for the most part they sold the work and finishing stretch quite well. The counters helped to increase the drama as well. Cena popping up after one move to hit the surprise AA was really bad though, that I won't deny.
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ok more matches.

Bret vs Owen cage
Bret vs Austin Survivor Series 1996
Shawn vs Foley mind games
Probably all in the ****3/4 range, though I know Bret/Owen is widely regarded as the full five.





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I wasn't to fond of the ending to Punk/Cena at NOC, but you knew then that the feud was going to continue, but then Cena got injured and Punk/Cena at HIAC didn't happen and instead it became Punk/Ryback, and they then threw Cena back in the feud at Survivor Series as almost filler just to lose again. When I think about it now, Cena's lost quite a bit last year on PPV's, but that doesn't stop him from being superstar of the year lol.

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My 2012 MOTY list is starting to take shape. Yes I'm still working on it. Have a good 5 or 6 matches still to go though.


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Curious to know how Punk/Cena HIAC would've been had it taken place.





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I think it would have been great. They ought to have a gimmick match. Maybe one day down the line though. I'm burnt out on them at this stage. Maybe that's why the ending to the match annoyed me so much.


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Probably all in the ****3/4 range, though I know Bret/Owen is widely regarded as the full five.
i always flip and flop pn the bret owen and hbk foley matches. the dq ending kinda ruins the mind games match but its the best 4 3/4 star match ever imo besides Flai vs Steamboat at Clash.That match i love so much but the foot ending pisses me off.its like we just watched 55 minutes and the finish is controversial?

also Bret vs owen,i love it,no blood sucks tho,and it feels like something is lacking at times.

BTW anyone what Bret Hart matches do u have at the full *****?

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Bret davey
bret owen wm
bret shawn iron man
bret austin wm
hart foundation vs team austin canadian stampede
bret vs benoit owen tribute
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Haven't seen enough Bret to be qualified for the discussion but I have the match with Austin from WM13 at ★★★★★ and the Benoit match (Owen tribute) at ★★★★.
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