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Old 01-05-2013, 10:23 AM   #13321 (permalink)
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Foley/Flair would be cool to see too.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:28 AM   #13322 (permalink)
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THAT FUCKING OPENER. What a terrible match, the only thing that saves it from being a complete and utter DUD is the GOAT's attempt to save it. Flair is god, we should all worship Flair instead of this Jesus Christ character, you are all subjects to him and his saggy man-titties. GOATS GONNA GOAT BABY! Anyways............. Terrible, terrible match and easily one of the worst opening matches to a PPV that I have EVER seen.
No, if I was gonna worship a wrestler, it would have to be Benoit despite the murderer tag attached to him. (And I don't even believe he did it, so whatever!)

That Rumble match is the greatest ever IMO. Although I have yet to see 1992 so my opinion may not be the most credible in that regard. Will watch it as soon as I can bother with it, though. Now it's time for 2006 and I remember watching it when I first got into wrestling a few years ago.

And before I went to bed yesterday, I decided to watch that famous Smackdown 03 match between Kurt Angle and The Undertaker again since I got done with 03 five or so months ago. Absolutely incredible and their attempts at out-wrestling each other with submissions as well as the nearfalls was awesome. Also didn't mind the DQ finish as I would normally. ★★★★.
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Paul Heyman/Eric Bischoff would be awesome provided Heyman didn't kill him during it.
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Bischoff/Heyman/Mcmahon Monday night wars edition would be the ultimate.
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How about Vince/Bischoff/Heyman all doing a Greatest Rivalries doc together sitting right beside eachother with JR interviewing them?

That's a Must Buy.
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I wouldnt mind seeing Heyman on a roundtable doc (has he done one?)
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Nope, he hasn't. Wish he was part of the hardcore wrestling one that happened recently. Though he's be great on any of them.
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Nope. Hopefully he does one. I love hearing Heyman's insight on things regarding wrestling. I'd love to see a roundtable with Heyman, Jim Ross, Pat Patterson, Michael Hayes, Mic Foley, and Road Dogg as they talk about the under achievers and over-achievers in wrestling. I know the topic was already covered but I would like to see Heyman give his 2 cents on this topic.
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Royal Rumble 2006:

Cruiserweight Six Way - ★★
- A typical fast paced cruiserweight match with a lot of spots. Paul London is awesome as usual and that Shooting Star Press on the outside was insane. Gregory Helms comes back to Smackdown and wins the whole match. Also what took Jamie Noble so long? He had been gone for so long by this point. Unless he was on Velocity, that is.

Mickie James vs Ashley - ★★
- Not terrible but kind of dull and even though both try, it's nothing special. Just an okay match and at this point, I'm just waiting for Mickie to turn fully heel.

The Boogeyman vs JBL - 0
- I'll play word association game with this one. TRASH.

The Royal Rumble Match - ★★★
- A very fun match that gets placed in the middle of the show for some stupid reason. Very entertaining and although it feels a bit too long and the middle part of it gets a bit boring with too many guys in the ring, I still loved it. But it does place the match below 2005 for that reason. Lots of highlights such as Rey Mysterio pulling off a Chris Benoit-like move and lasting the entire match for 62 minutes, his little piece of ring action with Triple H in the beginning (shame they never went one on one), Chris Benoit when he initially appears giving Germans and chops left and right as well as the return of Mr. Pay-Per-View, RVD, after being away for a year. He does have some ring rust as some moves are barely done successfully. The ending was also awesome with Rey using the "magic legs" to eliminate The Game (gets a HUGE pop) and then Orton. I think the whole "looking at Eddie up in heaven" part post-match was a bit over the top, though. Sucks that Vince is such a douchebag as he HAD to exploit Eddie's death directly afterwards in the Orton/Rey feud. Also heel Vince and his feud with Shawn Michaels is fucking boring. Can't believe I'm going to endure this shit for almost the whole year.

John Cena vs Edge - ★★
- A decent title match which makes Edge a transitional champion and gets Cena back the gold. Starts off very boring with a lot of time spent on the outside and too much count-out shit then when Cena gets in and starts to get in some offense, the match really picks up. Still feels a bit slow and the ending is very half-assed Super Cena material as he suddenly gets an adrenaline rush and does his five moves of doom before putting Edge in the STFU for the victory. This was a very stupid move by the company since Cena was really starting to lose some of the boos during the Royal Rumble build-up as the title was finally off him after 9 long months. As we all know, the heat got worse after this by Wrestlemania time and beating Triple H did him no favors. Before I move on, I also have to put over Cena's AWESOME entrance which should have been saved for a Wrestlemania. Prefer it to any WM entrance he's had so far.

Kurt Angle vs Mark Henry - ★★
- A very boring main event to say the least. Too much of this "strong monster heel" shit going on which slows it down for a 9 minute long match. I did like the booking of Angle, despite being a face, resorting to cheating his way to victory, though. A rare thing that is not done very often by WWE in recent times and not even in the past unless it would part of a gimmick like Eddie Guerrero. Crowd is also bored at this point, probably curious why this main evented the show. Undertaker's appearance in the end was pretty cool, though. Loved how they did the effect thing so it looked like he had magical powers using his hands and I laughed at him arriving with a horse, lol. Pretty dull match but cool ending.

Overall: ★★★ out of ★★★★★ (This is a mixed bag with some good stuff and at least one real bad part. JBL/Boogeyman was horrible, the title matches were underwhelming while the opening two were okay filler. As usual with these PPVs, the Rumble match itself is the true savior. Far from the best match of its kind but a very enjoyable one with a great ending. It's safe to say I did enjoy the PPV overall and the ending to it was memorable even though it could've been saved for Smackdown that week as it did not exactly bump the buyrates. As far as I know, there was no promotions for Taker returning or anything so it was very pointless unless ratings were needed desperately.)
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Night of Champions 2012


#1-Intercontinental Championship: The Miz (c) vs Cody Rhodes vs Rey Mysterio vs Sin Cara: ★ ★ ★ 1/2

Pretty good match. I thoroughly enjoyed this, I feel its underrated. The portions of Rey vs Cara were a bit slow and clunky though. I dislike the overused corner spot but I liked the finish with a blind Miz dropping Cody with the SCF to get the win.

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#2-Tag Team Championship: Kofi Kingston & R-Truth (c) vs Kane & Daniel Bryan: ★ ★ ★

Man the crowd absolutely LOVES Daniel Bryan. They like him so much they booed the faces. Kofi's hilo was a good spot (and he landed on his feet....sheesh). Pretty clunky finish but told the story of the unlikely duo bumbling into a win.

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#3-United States Championship: Antonio Cesaro (c) vs Zack Ryder: ★ ★

This was a pretty surprising contest because I actually expected to dud the fuck out of it. Crowd really into Ryder makes for good atmosphere. Ryder got some good offense in, his suplex counter into the neckbreaker was cool. You gotta love Cesaro's flapjack into the uppercut...which looked brutal. They did a good job of putting Ryder over by him not being destroyed and looking competitive.
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#4-Dolph Ziggler vs Randy Orton: ★ ★ ★

Man Ziggler is over, "Let's Go Ziggler" chants break out early...a smattering of boos for Randy which is surprising to say the least. Orton is incredibly uninspired in this match it seems. This match is slow, totally not what he and Ziggler are capable of, despite this the crowd breaks out into dueling "Let's Go" chants. I loved Randy's early slingshot suplex spot (word to Tully Blanchard) and the Fame Asser (Rocker Dropper) counter into a powerbomb as well. Zigs landed a leaping DDT, which was pretty cool. The match picked up the pace during "boo/yay" spot, which was awesome.. they were throwing hands so fast the crowd got confused they were heavy into Ziggler at that point. Awesome DDT on the floor by Randy, creative way to do that spot. Pretty dope flapjack into the RKO to finish. The match was fine for what it was but it leaves me confused. It had a huge PPV atmosphere with the crowd going ape for both but the action spoke more to it being a RAW/SD TV match...not really PPV worthy.
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#5-Divas Championship: Layla (c) vs Eve ★

I love me some Layla, I want her to mother my children, she's so damn cute. Her cheeks and face just make me wanna..... and Eve is FINE as in model FINE definitely the kind of woman my mama would tell me to stay away from....both very beautiful women in very different ways. I actually dig the chain wrestling they did. Layla is a better technician than some of the guys and Eve is a better heel than most of the guys (and as a Black heterosexual male I think her entrance theme kinda rocks it fits her perfectly). They actually putting in some work here, crowd doesn't give a fuck though. I didn't know Eve had a finisher but it looked cool, nice move.
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[I literally LOL'd at Kane dumping Gatorade on Bryan. Its was so ridiculous and it took me by surprise]
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#6-World Heavyweight Championship: Sheamus (c) vs Alberto Del Rio: ★ ★ ★

Why in the fuck are they changing the rules right before the bell rings?! I hate to be THAT guy but small stuff like that is indicative of what's wrong with WWE. The heels are disadvantaged instead of the face being disadvantaged. Diatribe aside, Sheamus completed a good spot with the battering ram from the apron and the spot where Sheamus arm is trapped into the ropes was also a pretty good spot. Beautiful application of ADR's cross-armbreaker done as well. The match itself is a pretty pedestrian affair, their opportunity to tell a different story was blown to bits before the opening bell however. If you've seen any of their previous matches this is no different. I truly believe that heel ADR was handicapped with a submission finisher since none of the top faces ever submit and all the stories of his matches revolved around him weakening the arm for its effectiveness.
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#7-WWE Championship: CM Punk (c) vs John Cena:
★ ★ ★ ★ 3/4

I totally forgot about the build to this match but jesus the video package was so well done I feel like this is huge for the careers of both guys. Such intensity from Cena is a rarity these days, I had to call somebody an "ignorant son of a bitch" in commemoration.


An actual slow, traditional start to this one, I'm surprised because Its too much like 80s pro-wrestling. The procrastinating heel picking his spots. I mean damn a drop toe hold into a bridge? Since when do they do that? A very timely "that is wrestling" chant, from the smarks I bet. Fisherman buster on the floor was a good spot and goes into the theme of doing signature spots in different positions at this event.


Punk shows some intelligence by blocking most of Cena's signature spots and offense which is a creative direction for the match and usually a guy only counters one or two moves. Cena's strength really on display to counter and break free of Punk's intelligent offense.


WHAT THE FUCK?!?! A suicide dive from Cena?!?! Lol crazy, gotta give John Boy credit that was very well done.

A wonderful Anaconda Vice into the STF into the crippler crossface chain...Punk's counters are on point. Cena's GTS counter into the STF was also very well done, I'm actually surprised at this match. Cena kicking out of the GTS wasn't much of a surprise but the crowd really popped for it, a small "let's go cena" chant breaks out afterwards..the atmosphere has been awesome all night by the way, Boston rocked!


JBL really helps the story move along. He basically telling you what's going on. That's great commentating. He also brings intelligence and experience to the booth.


Punk's moonsault was very, very ugly....but it furthers the story of Punk trying to find a way to keep Cena down...he whiffed it terribly though, he would have missed even if Cena didn't move. Punk is desperate, you can feel it, see it and understand it.


This match is fuckin awesome! (The crowd agrees).

The finish was......not good, very clunky and awkward. Incredibly anti-climatic but what a fantastic story and well worked match. I don't mind the draw but there had to be a better way to do it. This match was obviously used to set up the HIAC match that never came but incredible match nonetheless.



I love Night of Champions as an event, once again its my favorite PPV of the year.
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