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Old 01-04-2013, 06:49 AM   #13271 (permalink)
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Still got a shitload of matches to watch, but I've been listening to the Fabulous Rougeau Brothers theme on repeat (fucking boss!) and I'm wondering what are their best matches?
They have some really fucking great matches against The Rockers (some sucky ones too though). Can't remember the dates for the good ones though lol.
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I'd put Henry over Punk for 2011. That's a 'work' talking point. Like, bell-to-bell matches. Drawing figures and all that are interesting but I don't use them or anything else as a metric. Henry didn't have anything on level with MITB, but I'm not entirely sure what the second best Punk match of 2011 is or if I prefer it to the third or fourth best from Henry. I think Mark had a stronger TV year and was one of my favourite competitive mauling quasi-squash wrestlers ever. Fuck, his 2011 is one of my favourite wrestler years ever, period. Monster heel done ideally. There is almost nothing better.







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I wouldn't put Henry anywhere near Punk in 2011 as far as wrestling goes, but 2011 was a fairly strong Henry year, no doubt. Frankly though, I don't remember any of his TV matches aside from the Bryan cage one, which I remember being great, but haven't watched i since it first aired. However, I would still put Punk/Cena's MITB, SS, Raw, as well as the triple threat HIAC and the match against Mysterio at CP over Henry's best match of the year, against Show at Vengeance 2011. Here are the ratings for reference:

Henry's matches:

vs Show MITB 11 : ***
vs Sheamus SS 11 : ***
vs Orton NOC 11 : ***1/4
vs Orton HIAC 11 : **3/4
vs Show VEN 11 : ***3/4
vs Show SS 11 : **3/4
vs. Bryan SD Cage: ***1/2
vs Show TLC 11 : **


I do agree though that Henry's 2011 run was how a monster run should be done. Despite how many times he's lost in the past, they did an awesome job of making Henry look unstoppable until Big Show came into the picture, and even then it only got really bad around SVS time. But during that run for the most part, I couldn't imagine Henry losing at all and it definitely added something. Him winning the WHC was an awesome moment as well, as it really felt like it meant something to him (especially after that promo he cut draft night). Such a shame it got cut short due to injury. I would've loved to see the Bryan/Henry match as well at Mania with the underdog Bryan conquering the unstoppable monster Henry and taking the WHC from him. I suppose in hindsight, what happened with Sheamus made Bryan more over than he ever would've in a feud with Henry... but we'll never know, I suppose.
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Benoit/Angle:I was really bored by it. The Benoit/Angle matches can have a bit of a rep of being robotic and emotionless, which I think isn't true for most of them, but does apply to this one. It just felt like a 'decent' exhibition and nothing more. Their matches that went 20+ minutes were actually much easier to get through and a lot better overall.

wrote this before I saw Sandrone's post. I dont want to double post so I'll post about Henry whenever someone posts.
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Guys does CM Punk vs Randy Orton from ER 2011 deserve a watch?
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Guys does CM Punk vs Randy Orton from ER 2011 deserve a watch?
Yeah, I'd say so. Not a classic or anything, but its good. I think other people like it a lot more than me.

HENRY in 2011 was awesome from an all round standpoint. Great promos, awesome character, and while he wasn't exactly having ****+ matches I could probably go back and watch his entire run a lot easier than even Punk's 2011 (still consider Punk WOTY though).

I remember at the end of 2011 bringing up Henry as a potential WOTY and I believe everyone basically ignored me . Literally didn't respond, even to say that they didn't think Henry was worthy or not lol. BASTARDS.
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I wouldn't put Henry anywhere near Punk in 2011 as far as wrestling goes, but 2011 was a fairly strong Henry year, no doubt. Frankly though, I don't remember any of his TV matches aside from the Bryan cage one, which I remember being great, but haven't watched i since it first aired. However, I would still put Punk/Cena's MITB, SS, Raw, as well as the triple threat HIAC and the match against Mysterio at CP over Henry's best match of the year, against Show at Vengeance 2011.
Like I said IDK what I'd consider Punk's second best match, but it's probably whatever his second best match with Cena that year was and I don't really know if I like it more than Henry/Show, Henry/Orton or Henry/Bryan. I didn't think much of that HIAC three-way, and really I didn't think much of anything Punk did post-SummerSlam other than the very good Cena Raw match and the really fun Raw match with Dolph. Del Rio match was fine but kind of boring and went way too ong (did it? Felt like it). The HHH stuff wasn't bad, but wasn't particularly good to me either, and I'd rather watch anything Henry did that year to it. The TLC three-way had a really good dramatic moment at the end with Punk trying to pull the turnbuckle apart, but overall I didn't like it.

I still have not seen the Mysterio match, I don't think. I said I was going to watch/write about the Punk/Rey series for this thread before Christmas. I was obviously full of shit, but I will watch all of them again one day.

Henry's first match as a heel IIRC was v Mysterio which I actually felt disappointed with at the time, but re-watching it a couple of months ago I really really liked it. That was April, before people were even pushing Henry. He had awesome semi-squash-ish matches with John Morrison and Zack Ryder on TV. I think they were both no DQ and there's such this great feel of Morriosn/Ryder getting thrown into a lion pit with everyone worried they'd be fucked up. They had awesome hope and comeback spots and Henry looked like the all time great killer. He had SEVERAL good TV matches Orton, and more than one with Sheamus including the SummerSlam re-match which to me was actually probably as good as the PPV match itself. I loved loved loved the first Bryan match in November and the second was pretty great too despite both being short. Man, typing all of this up makes me actually realise I forgot how much good Henry had in 2011. FUCK. How good could he have been for the second half of 2006 had he not gotten injured? Or in 2010 if he was a heel working a main event program? His career should have been way better than it was (and I'm a BIG fan of it as it is) and it sucks he has to be injured right now when he finally got the big break he needed. Glad he got that kind of run eventually, though.

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Yeah it's good. Didn't LOVE it, but could see why someone would.
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Like I said IDK what I'd consider Punk's second best match, but it's probably whatever his second best match with Cena that year was and I don't really know if I like it more than Henry/Show, Henry/Orton or Henry/Bryan. I didn't think much of that HIAC three-way, and really I didn't think much of anything Punk did post-SummerSlam other than the very good Cena Raw match and the really fun Raw match with Dolph. Del Rio match was fine but kind of boring and went way too ong (did it? Felt like it). The HHH stuff wasn't bad, but wasn't particularly good to me either, and I'd rather watch anything Henry did that year to it. The TLC three-way had a really good dramatic moment at the end with Punk trying to pull the turnbuckle apart, but overall I didn't like it.
Oooh, can't believe I forgot Punk/Dolph from November. That's another match I'd put over Henry/Show from Vengeance.
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How can Fremantle not have a site set up for the day they take over the license. Very tinpot


At least it looks like Silver vision will be doing TNA dvds in the future though .
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Has anyone seen the Vince Russo Kayfabe Commentary session where he rebooks the Invasion? I've seen about 70% of the Cornette one and it was pretty decent for what it was. Just wanted to know if anyone thought the Russo one was up to much?
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