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Lesnar put on some good matches...during his initial run. I feel he's massively overrated by a lot of people. I personally think his best match was the Taker HIAC match (all their matches were dope though) but his matches with Angle were very good as was his match with Eddie at NWO. Rock match at SS '02 was cool as well...I wouldn't say "great" but it was a good match, a lot of fun to watch.


I dislike Big Show and never saw a Lesnar/Show match I felt I needed to see again. I think his most underrated match is the match he had with Test at KOTR 2002...it was a pretty good match to me.


That match with Triple H this past Summerslam was disappointing but it wasn't horrible, just not what I'd expected.


Lesnar isn't worth the money they spending on him, so I don't see a reason to re-sign him. Especially not for $5 million dollars and he only worked 2 events all year.
Agree that he is massively overrated by some. To even be in the discussion for greatest of all time, you need a body of work more than a year or two. Just the way it is.


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It makes NO SENSE to have that match. Trips will probably just be involved with The Undertaker match or something, since Trips is involved with basically everything The Undertaker is involved in Kayfabe wise nowadays.

What's the biggest match that WWE can put on right now ? Lesnar-Rock. IT WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY.

Nobody has Lesnar in the GOAT discussion BECAUSE of what you just said ; his body of work simply isn't large enough. However, it's a great enough sample size that when you think about it.... He was certainly on pace to be one of the best workers ever. He could work well with ANYBODY, and his only bad match in my mind was his last one for obvious reasons.

If he sticked around, the guys he would have potentially locked up with on PPV were endless, as I'm certain he would have ended up on RAW taking on the likes of HBK, HHH, Jericho, Benoit, etc... years upon years of solid matches with great opponents would have given him QUITE an impressive match catalogue. No doubt we would have gotten Lesnar-HHH in the main event of Wrestlemania XXI.





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PUNK V CENA

MITB 2011 *****
SS 2011 ****1/2
NOC 2012 ****1/4

Shame we didn't get Punk V Cena HIAC. Instead we got..... yeah. That man.

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It makes NO SENSE to have that match. Trips will probably just be involved with The Undertaker match or something, since Trips is involved with basically everything The Undertaker is involved in Kayfabe wise nowadays.

What's the biggest match that WWE can put on right now ? Lesnar-Rock. IT WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY.
Lesnar is a hot commodity out here and while Its possible they pull Lesnar/Rock. There's a perfect set up....if Lesnar helps Punk retain at Rumble...then the match is set very easily. However I'm guessing Undertaker isn't going to let Lesnar get away without facing him and it makes no sense to have it at Extreme Rules.
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But if it isn't HHH/Lesnar then what?

You can't leave the will HHH retire storyline just floating around.HE DIDN'T DO DAT TEAR FOR NOTHING.

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PUNK V CENA

MITB 2011 *****
SS 2011 ****1/2
NOC 2012 ****1/4

Shame we didn't get Punk V Cena HIAC. Instead we got..... yeah. That man.
Don't remind me. Would have been another classic in the books I'm sure. Fuck Ryback, he ruins everything.





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WWF Backlash 2001 - WWF Heavyweight Championship, Intercontinental Championship & Tag Team Championship: Stone Cold Steve Austin & Triple H (w/Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley) vs. The Undertaker & Kane

Whoever gets the pin wins the title E.G. If his team would win he and Taker retain the tag titles and Kane would be the WWF Champion. As for Taker. The real story to this one is Kane’s injured arm, which was brutally beat by Austin and Triple H in the days leading up to the PPV. This did not need to be 27 minutes, AT ALL!. They pretty much killed time for 10 minutes, before the actual story began. Taker wanted to keep Kane out because of the bad arm, and then they finally isolated Kane and worked the arm. But the heat segment on Kane was fuckin' brutal and made this more fun. The finish was pretty predictable and you might think the Power Trip winning the titles was a big deal, but really they were rapidly losing meaning cause since NWO 2001 2 months ago the titles have changed hands SIX times. **1/2

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I love that tag match

I gave it **** on the last watch, and I'm standing by that. Same rating as Taker-Austin from Judgment Day 2001, their best match together by far.





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Really hope we get Cena/Rock for the title and Lesnar taking on Undertaker for the streak. Hunter can stay this one out or have some random match to get another WM victory since he's starting to look like a WM jobber since he's only won 4 out of his 10 or something WM matches in the last decade.

Similar to how Lesnar/Hunter has the mixed feelings on it with the supporters that don't mind it happening again, I feel that way about Rock/Cena. Plus the thought of Cena possibly turning heel makes it exciting even though I know I set myself up for disappointment in this one.

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Read Brock's book the other day, and it seems like he pretty much loves everybody in the wrestling business but despises everything about backstage politics and on the road travelling. It was really interesting when he talked about what he felt were his best matches ;

The book is really WRESTLING heavy which makes it awesome automatically, but you can tell by reading it how much respect he has for guys like Taker (who he talks about like the locker room godfather) and how he feels Taker is essentially the greatest ever. He even talks about his respect for Ric Flair, even though he claims he never wants to be anything like Flair. FUCK, he dedicates a whole chapter expressing his love for Curt Hennig, what a great book.... Even though I know this isn't a BOOK FORUM (that would be hilarious) but I just needed to say that it's awesome.

Made me think about something ; Lesnar's most underrated match and Lesnar's most overrated match.
Lesnar is absolutely awesome. I really need to check out 2002 too so I can consider myself fully familiar with his entire career as I've watched everything from 03 and 04 as well as every single appearance last year.

Underrated: either vs Big Show at JD or vs Benoit at Smackdown. The latter would have probably gotten more attention if it was on PPV. Sucks they never officially got a real feud.

Overrated: Really don't know, maybe vs Angle at WM XIX. It was a great match and all, but I think SummerSlam was better and gets overlooked in WM's favor. The crowd was completely dead (understandable after the Hogan/Vince & Rock/Austin matches) and since Angle had a bad neck, they took it easy with a bit of restholds overkill.

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Read Jericho's second book in the same time-frame.... That guy is NEVER fucking happy with any of his matches it seems, unless it's an all-time classic. He refers to himself as basically being a TERRIBLE worker when it comes to the WWE style in 99 and 00 , and basically comes out and says that Hunter carried him in their Fully Loaded classic.

He fucking LOVES his matches with Rock, Hunter, and Benoit, and cites ROCK as being probably his best opponent in the WWE. Probably the most optimistic I've ever seen Benoit and his death portrayed since that horrible day, and I know Choke2Death would really enjoy reading about it.

Yeah, you're right about the HHH match... WHY DOES EVERYBODY HATE THAT SO MUCH... IT IS AN AWESOME MATCH YOU FUCKERS ... I just think that in this day in age it seems like everybody either hates Trips, or hates Brock's distinct style... Or both.
Jericho reminds me of myself. Every time I look back at something I've done in the past, I'm always like "damn, that sucks".

I also don't get it when it comes to his take on the Benoit tragedy. One interview you hear him say "How can you even watch his matches now?" then another minute, he's defending him.
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