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Old 01-01-2013, 04:41 PM   #13061 (permalink)
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Punk/Cena re-watches (from any event) expose the matches a lot. I've yet to re-watch any of them though but I know if I do my opinion will change so much.

I had their NOC encounter at ★★★★ and that may have been being generous. To me their absolute worst is their RAW 2011 match. Talk about a finisher fest.

The problem with Punk/Cena is that once you've seen one, you've pretty much seen all. It's the same chain wrestle for a bit, bust out a sub, counter it, Punk hits a GTS, Cena kicks out, Cena hits AA and Punk kicks out, Punk attempts to hit a high spot but misses. Some more finisher kick outs. It's just the same crap all the time. It's like watching a watered down version of an ROH match. And by watered down I mean, it's missing about 20 more kick outs and a couple more high spots to be classified as an ROH match.
That's the basic WWE main event formula and has been for years. I'm surprised you still watch WWE if you don't like that kind of match. Punk is a million times better worker now than he was in ROH.
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:41 PM   #13062 (permalink)
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Here's a little run-down of my favourite feud of ALL TIME:

UNDERTAKER VS. MANKIND

King Of The Ring June 1996 - Singles Match - ****
Summerslam August 1996 - Boiler Room Brawl - ***
In Your House Buried Alive October 1996 - Buried Alive Match - ***
Survivor Series November 1996 - Singles Match - **
In Your House Revenge Of The Taker April 1997 - WWF Title Match - ***1/2
King Of The Ring June 1998 - Hell In A Cell - *****
Monday Night Raw September 1998 - No Holds Barred - ***

1996 was just an absolute triumph for Mick Foley. Only letdown being the Survivor Series match at MSG which gave off the indication that the people had seen everything they wanted to see of this feud. I remember seeing this on Sky Sports at the time, and they only showed about five minutes of the match! Unbelievable.

The match at 'Revenge Of The Taker' is an underrated gem. The Boiler Room Brawl is one of the more talked about matches and is an excellent match, but was hampered by not having commentary during the brawl in the boiler room itself, and it dragged on for way too long.

Hell In A Cell is undoubtedly the daddy here, and has it's critics who mainly cite it as a fall from a cell and nothing else. They couldn't be more wrong. From Taker throwing Foley off the cell, to the way he climbs the cage with that sick grin to then being chokeslammed THROUGH the cage, complete with astonishing calls from Jim Ross. Then Terry Funk gets attacked. Foley and Taker continue to battle despite their injuries (Taker had a broken bone in his foot), and the end sequences with the thumb tacks are truly unforgettable.
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That's the basic WWE main event formula and has been for years. I'm surprised you still watch WWE if you don't like that kind of match. Punk is a million times better worker now than he was in ROH.
Oh for sure Punk is a much better worker now and no, that's not the main event style The main event style of WWE has false finishes. Punk and Cena just have 2 counts.
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I like to believe that they are going through the motions (obviously lol) last year, this year and probably next so they can get this current crop of guys ready so that when the time is right, they have all the tools set in place to take advantage and hopefully usher in a new boom or as close to a new boom period as you can get in the 2010's. The NXT guys, Maddox, Sandow, Rhodes, Ambrose, Rollins, Reigns, Ryback etc. They're all going to leapfrog over the Kofi Kingston's and Evan Bourne's of the world imo. They're rebuilding right now that much is obvious. I think things will be a lot better once they get an established character base to work with a few years down the line. Unfortunately we just have to suffer through the shit until they get there.
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Lesnar/HHH was a massive disappointment.
As a Lesnar fan it was great. As a HHH fan expecting to see his same old boring formula it may have been a dissapointment.
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Oh for sure Punk is a much better worker now and no, that's not the main event style The main event style of WWE has false finishes. Punk and Cena just have 2 counts.
Cena mtches are the WWE main event style considering he's been the main event for 8 years.
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As a Lesnar AND Triple H fan it was pretty darn awesome.

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Don't talk about Evan Bourne like that.

I'm still waiting for him to come back.
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I'm sure he's at the very top of the Big Johnny list for when they start making cuts.
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More than likely.

Somehow JTG finds his way off that list every year but this might be it for him.
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