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I think since going PG WWE has churned out more MOTY and more MOTYC.

2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 have all won the 'coveted' MOTY award from the Observer.

Btw, Nexus vs Team WWE was that good? I should give that a watch. I heard a lot of criticism from Cena getting up 2 seconds after getting DDT'ed on the concrete floor.

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Oh guys can anyone clear this up for me. Two things I want clarity on and it would be greatly appreciated. I remember watching RAW as a kid and there was this weird segment. It involved X-Pac and I believe Tori. Anyway, the segment was that Tori (assuming it was her) brought him a plate of fries which spelled his name. And for some reason he flipped out on her.

The second incident, involved Kane, Funaki and Taka. Iirc, they were in the bathroom and they had these red bandanas. And they were telling Kane "Red's our favourite colour too" and yeah Kane ent berzerk on their ass.
For some reason, that sounds fucking hilarious.

Oh 99, I can't wait to watch you!

Ranking SummerSlam main events at random:

Benoit/Orton ★★★★½
Rock/Brock ★★★★¼
Cena/Orton ★★★★
Punk/Cena ★★★¾-★★★★
Cena/Edge ★★★
HHH/Brock ★★★½
Taker/Edge ★★★¾
Hogan/HBK ★★★½
Elimination Chamber - ★★¾
Booker/Rock - ★★★
Nexus/WWE - ★★★½
Hart/Taker - ★★★¾

That's all of those I've seen.
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Punk/Cena at SS bored me silly when i watched it in 2011. Not to mention that finish which was atrocious. Cena never got even with the referee either. DAT CONTINUITY.

Brock/Rock & Taker/Bret are my favourite SS Matches. Honourable mentions to Punk/Hardy & Edge/Taker.



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The reason why 1999 was such a successful year and is held in high regard is not because of the quality of wrestling, but the characters.

Look at 2012 for example. There were many great matches, some even classics, and we were always treated to at least one good TV match a week. But the characters themselves have been dogshit for the most part. Ziggler has just recently found an identity, Kofi is still a happy Jamaican with no direction, nobody gave a shit about Daniel Bryan (except for smarks) until he found a catchphrase, etc.

The thing with 1999 is that EVERYONE had a storyline. Whether it was main eventers like The Rock and Stone Cold or freaking referees and Godfather's hos, everyone had a reason to be there.

You can't watch 1999 if you are looking for good wrestling. 1999 is a year of swerves, raunchy storylines, and larger than life gimmicks.
This. So much this.

I hate 1999 in the Attitude Era but the characters in that year were already kicked into full gear and took off to the moon. The Undertaker's character evolved once again, The Rock was already a big star once the year came, the New Age Outlaws were already an over duo as a tag team, Stone Cold was still kicking ass and taking names, Vince McMahon and Shane McMahon's heel on-screen characters came into full effect, Triple H already gotten away from the Connecticut blue-blood gimmick, etc. It was a great time for the characters that evolved in that year.

I was looking at the Smackdown 10 year Anniversary DVD and they were talking about the Smackdown pilot, showing how over the characters such as D-Generation X, The Brood, The Ministry of Darkness, and many more were. The characters had already been established and were over with the audience that it was exciting to watch at that time .


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Punk/Cena at SS bored me silly when i watched it in 2011. Not to mention that finish which was atrocious. Cena never got even with the referee either. DAT CONTINUITY.
Just rewatched the match and I have to say I agree. I was completely bored almost from the get go. Crowd looks like they are struggling to stay alive and the smarky part just randomly chant shit for the hell of it mostly plus the match goes on for too long. Other than seeing Cena bust a few moves out that he doesn't usually use (Gutwrench Suplex, Emerald Flowsion, Crossface) it was a complete bore. And the finish was terrible. Cena got his foot on the rope way too early and Punk's GTS is the worst I've ever seen from him and that says a lot for a move he botches 99% of the time. His knee hit Cena's ARM ffs!

★★★★? More like ★★½ this time!
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First few times I watched Cena/Punk SS I loved it. The most recent time I tried to watch it I ended up stopping it halfway through and watching Orton/Christian instead because it was boring me.

Wrestling thrives when it has great characters telling great stories in the ring. 99 had great characters but the ring work left a lot to be desired. Today you could say the ring work is better but there are literally no characters at all which is why nobody gives a fuck. In order for something to be truly memorable and stand the test of time, you need to have both. That's why 2000 fucking ruled and is the best wrestling year ever imo. The perfect blend of character developlment and weekly story telling culminating on PPV in fantastic matches worth your money every time and from the top of the card right down to the bottom too. Everybody and everything mattered. CM Punk has held the title for over 400 days and hardly any fucks have been given because the title is basically worthless at this point. Says it all really.

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Punk/Cena re-watches (from any event) expose the matches a lot. I've yet to re-watch any of them though but I know if I do my opinion will change so much.

I had their NOC encounter at ★★★★ and that may have been being generous. To me their absolute worst is their RAW 2011 match. Talk about a finisher fest.

The problem with Punk/Cena is that once you've seen one, you've pretty much seen all. It's the same chain wrestle for a bit, bust out a sub, counter it, Punk hits a GTS, Cena kicks out, Cena hits AA and Punk kicks out, Punk attempts to hit a high spot but misses. Some more finisher kick outs. It's just the same crap all the time. It's like watching a watered down version of an ROH match. And by watered down I mean, it's missing about 20 more kick outs and a couple more high spots to be classified as an ROH match.

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Punk/Cena MITB is fantastic. Punk/Cena SS dropped a lot after my most recent attempt to watch it. I don't remember anything about their Raw 11 match at all and I still haven't seen NOC yet.

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I liked the Punk/Cena SummerSlam match a lot, but I wouldn't call it really really great or say it's one of the best matches of the year. I probably prefer the 8/22/11 one even if it isn't as good.

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I think I will embark on ranking those Summerslam main events. Gonna watch all of them, once I get tired of this ECW 2006 goodness. I'm only 2 episodes in but it's a hell of a lot of fun. Kelly Kelly

It still baffles me how much the product has changed in 7 years. Damn, when you say it like that. Shit feels like just yesterday when it's almost an entire freaking decade! Where did time go? And to think that WWE is more or less in it's 5th year of PG. Jesus, time is flying.

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