[The Lady Killer]

Originally Posted by Hailsabin

I didn't think he was going to lose the match.

That's just because you're a stupid mark.

I had a feeling Taker would lose, but didn't think he'd be the one falling out of the ring through 4 tables.

Originally Posted by jonoaries

Their TLC & HIAC matches were just meh to me.

I loved their HIAC match.

[Yeah1993]

Originally Posted by jonoaries

I may be in the minority but I don't like Undertaker/Edge feud at all. It was just.....lacking. Coming off the epic Undertaker/Batista slugfests it seemed bogged down by the story-line. The WM XIV match was good and that's really the only match I thoroughly enjoyed between them. Their TLC & HIAC matches were just meh to me.

Yeah I don't like the feud very much at all. WM is good but not THAT good. Same deal with HIAC. TLC is rubbish and the others I don't even remember, but should watch again. Taker's feud with the Big Show later in the year was so much better.

[RatedR10]

Originally Posted by KingCal

TLC IV is good, nothing great though. 8th best TLC match. Ranked them after watching TLC PPV:

13. Edge Vs Kane Vs Rey Mysterio Vs Alberto Del Rio - TLC XI TLC 2010 - **
12. Undertaker Vs Edge - TLC VII One Night Stand 2008 - **1/2
11. DX Vs JeriShow - TLC IX TLC 2009 - **1/2
10. CM Punk Vs Alberto Del Rio Vs The Miz - TLC XII TLC 2011 - **1/2
09. John Cena Vs Edge - TLC VI Unforgiven 2006 - ***
08. Bubba & Spike Vs Kane & Hurricane Vs Chris Jericho & Christian Vs Jeff Hardy & Rob Van Dam - TLC IV Raw 07/10/2002 - ***1/4
07. CM Punk Vs Jeff Hardy - TLC VIII SummerSlam 2009 - ***1/2
06. Jerry Lawler Vs The Miz - TLC X Raw 29/11/2010 - ***1/2
05. The Dudley Boys Vs The Hardy Boys Vs Edge & Christian - TLC II WrestleMania 01/04/2001 - ***3/4
04. Edge Vs Ric Flair - TLC V Raw 16/01/2006 - ***3/4
03. The Shield Vs Team Hell No & Ryback - TLC XIII TLC 2012 - ****
02. The Dudley Boys Vs The Hardy Boys Vs Edge & Christian - TLC I SummerSlam 2000 - ****1/4
01. The Dudley Boys Vs The Hardy Boys Vs Edge & Christian Vs Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit - TLC III Smackdown 24/05/2001 - ****1/2

Agreed with the list. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels Edge/Cena wasn't that great. I liked it at the time, but after re-watching it on Edge's DVD, it just wasn't as good as I remembered it.

I haven't seen Edge/Taker since it happened but I remember not liking it much after the match. I still enjoyed the feud and they made up for it in the HIAC match, IMO, which I did enjoy.

[Obfuscation]

Originally Posted by The Lady Killer

That's just because you're a stupid mark.

I had a feeling Taker would lose, but didn't think he'd be the one falling out of the ring through 4 tables.

Perhaps.

Yeah, HIAC was fantastic. Best match they produced.

[Choke2Death]

Just got done with the first Smackdown of 2006 and it was an awesome show. Watched every minute of it without a skip which is not something I do very often.

JBL vs Matt Hardy (Falls Count Anywhere) - ★★
- Could have gotten more time but Matt bashing JBL's skull 8 times in a row with the trashcan was just... wow. Also lol'd @ Boogeyman putting the worms inside Jillian's panties.

Mark Henry vs Jobbers - SQUASH
- Mizark marks (no pun intended) his impressive return after Benoit injured that arm for almost two years with the Crippler Crossface.

Kid Kash vs Juventud - ★★★
- Much better than their Armageddon match since crowd didn't shit on them this time and they seemed more inspired to put on a greater effort too. Also Kennedy on commentary was great!

Chris Benoit vs Randy Orton - ★★★¼
- Was a great, great match but then Orlando fucked it all up by showing up to hit Benoit with the crunch. DAMN YOU! I wouldn't mind the DQ if the match actually went over 7 or so minutes (excluding commercial break).

Gymini vs Londrick - SQUASH
- Not really a match but the squashing around of London and Kendrick had me in tears. They get MURDERED completely and their over the top selling made it hilarious. And why does Simon Dean still have a job with the same one-dimensional gimmick at this point?

MNM vs Batista & Rey Mysterio (Steel Cage) - ★★★½
- Their match before Armageddon was good, their match in the final SD of 05 was better but this one is the best! Really enjoyed it. MNM are spot on with their teamwork, Rey does his part as always and Batista is on fire as the powerhouse. Mizark's interference was very welcome too although it gave me the third "lol" moment of the show when he walked around for a minute thinking of a way to open the cage and show off his strength. Almost as funny as when Kurt Angle tried opening the door in that Heyman/Lesnar match but ended up having to climb over it.

[Gamblor]

Taker/Edge matches are awesome. Their build to Wrestlemania was decent enough and their build to Summerslam was great. The Wrestlemania match is one of the best main events for the show ever (top 10 and maybe top 5 imo), and the Hell in a Cell match is a classic. Their BL and JD matches were great as well, and their TLC match, despite being all over the place and very spotty was still fun at the very least (though the worst match of the series).

Taker/Show series was awesome as well. Just some hard-hitting stuff in the No Mercy and Cyber Sunday matches. Probably two of Big Show's best matches, and I'd say the CS one is his best. It's best to pretend the SVS match doesn't exist.

RATINGS!:

Taker/Edge:
WM24- ****1/4
BL- ***3/4
JD- ***1/2
TLC- ***
SS- ****3/4

Taker/Show:
NM- ****
CS- ****1/4
SVS- I don't even remember the match well enough or what I rated it, but I remember it being shit compared to their other two matches.

Taker/Show also had a good match at No Way Out 2003 I'd put at ***1/4.

[-Mystery-]

I still have the Taker/Edge HIAC match at *****

Edge bringing TLC elements into the match to negate Taker's "homefield advantage" was GOAT storytelling.

[sharkboy22]

Since we're still on the topic of ladder matches, what was your first ladder match?

Mine was Edge/Christian vs Hardys for however much amount of money it was.

[The Lady Killer]

Ramon/HBK II @ Summerslam 95. My first ever PPV.

[ShowStopper '97]

Originally Posted by sharkboy22

Since we're still on the topic of ladder matches, what was your first ladder match?

Mine was Edge/Christian vs Hardys for however much amount of money it was.

I was at HBK/Razor WM 10. WM 10 was on my 11th birthday, March 20, 1994. I lived about 20 minutes from MSG. Awesome atmosphere. Lots of 'ooohs & aaahs.' So much fun. Perfect Birthday gift for an 11 year old mark.