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Old 12-28-2012, 02:55 PM   #12811 (permalink)
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Lita fucking sucked. Like, easily worse than Kofi Kingston-level bad. Am I the only one who thinks that? I have a personal disdain for her which might get in the way, but shit, I can't think of any time she looked good. I don't think Trish was that good either but she at least was a good seller.

If I don't get that package from Cal again he'll probably throw in in a fire and keep my money because of that comment, but I had to say it.

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Don't throw the Kofi line in there. Ouch.

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Jawbreaker's stoned PWG BOLA reviews are incredible as well. Even if there's a serious ratio of Sami Callihan hate to every match of his...

Pretty sure the CIA should be investigating half the antics of our members instead of worrying about internet piracy and shit. If impressionable youngsters found out you could gamble in Glasgow until 3am whilst an old woman fails in yelling at you to cut your losses then we'd be responsible for the deterioration of youth culture. Not that youth culture today is that good anyways. There's more individuality in communism.
I've heard about the lore of his reviews. Never saw them yet. It's too bad. And too bad about the Sami hate. I've known about that for quite sometime now.



The things some people get away with. Considering my track record, I'll fit into the group just fine. Although I pale (literally) in comparison to Andy. Not even close.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:01 PM   #12812 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure if you search well enough you'll come across them. The grammar is hard to decipher on account of the drinking and drug use, but who doesn't love a challenge?

Tbf I don't think many people bar Craig & Crossface can lead the life Andy lives and still function normally. Storytime with Craig interestes, excites, astounds and disturbs me. He still hasn't told us about the time he passed out on a hill and was awoken by a group of kids on a tour (or something like that).

As for the Lita discussion. Can't say I watched enough of her matches to really hold an opinion of her. Lunatic bumper who was a perfect fit for the Attitude Era, but her and Trish have never really felt 'as good' as others make them out to be. Solid and dependable compared to some of the headcases who've represented the company as a Diva, but hardly groundbreaking or 'very good' workers when you compare them to say some of the Joshi folk (though that's a really unfair comparison given how Joshi was treated in Japan compared to Divas in WWE). FWIW I wouldn't try to compare Trish to an Aja Kong, because its unfair to Trish on a number of levels, but I can't help but point to it as an example of what I consider to be a truly talented female worker. I'm not using that to discredit Trish, since she was never given the chance to ever approach the talent of someone like Kong or Jaguar Yokoto.

As for the HOF, for whatever reason I've never really watched an acceptance speech. I can't imagine how good it is to take in live, and considering some of those who have made the cut you'd think I'd want to hear them discuss their careers and rejoice in getting recognition for their work, even if its hardly the prestigious award its marketed as. Still for whatever reason, I've never felt compelled to watch anything from it. Strange.

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Old 12-28-2012, 03:03 PM   #12813 (permalink)
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Lita fucking sucked. Like, easily worse than Kofi Kingston-level bad. Am I the only one who thinks that? I have a personal disdain for her which might get in the way, but shit, I can't think of any time she looked good. I don't think Trish was that good either but she at least was a good seller.

If I don't get that package from Cal again he'll probably throw in in a fire and keep my money because of that comment, but I had to say it.

Also, vivalabrave.
She's like the female version of CM Punk (or maybe Punk is the male version of her since she was around before him) so any hate is welcome in my book. And yes, she was a bad seller. I can instantly think of the Malenko Cloverleaf where she tapped out looking like she was bored rather than in pain.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:08 PM   #12814 (permalink)
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Wow. Pretty sure all people meant is that they were the best among WWE Divas. I can't speak to other promotions in other countries. I'm sure those women workers are much better than Lita and Trish. But as far as WWE is concerned. That's all. Big difference
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:15 PM   #12815 (permalink)
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That was me just using others to make a point about why I don't think Trish/Lita to be all that 'great'. As I said I'd never factually compare Trish to some of Joshi's finest because its unfair to her given the level of treatment and training they were afforded compared to what purpose women at that time in US wrestling (and still today) served. I suppose Trish and Lita could be considered the best in terms of strictly WWE, but I've made a habit of avoiding Divas matches historically that I can't really provide a valid argument beyond that.
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That was me just using others to make a point about why I don't think Trish/Lita to be all that 'great'. As I said I'd never factually compare Trish to some of Joshi's finest because its unfair to her given the level of treatment and training they were afforded compared to what purpose women at that time in US wrestling (and still today) served. I suppose Trish and Lita could be considered the best in terms of strictly WWE, but I've made a habit of avoiding Divas matches historically that I can't really provide a valid argument beyond that.
Completely cool. I just wanted to clear what I said before. I didn't and wouldn't call them the best female workers in the world (back then), just in WWE. I'm sure there are much better workers in other countries, both male and female.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:20 PM   #12817 (permalink)
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Oh, something else about the HOF... didn't there used to be a formal dress code for the fans in attendance too? Was cool to see everyone get dressed up in suits and shit to honour the legends... but this year they all looked like fucking scruffs. Shame on them.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:21 PM   #12818 (permalink)
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I'd put Trish near the better of the WWE divas. I mean everyone knows that not saying a whole bunch, though. How often was the divas match NOT the worst match on the card of a PPV unless you had an Eric Bischoff v Teddy Long thing going? Myabe I'm wrong, but IDK. I'll watch the Trish/Mickie stuff again I suppose but Mickie just annoys me as well. BETTER THAN LITA, THOUGH.
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I'm pretty sure if you search well enough you'll come across them. The grammar is hard to decipher on account of the drinking and drug use, but who doesn't love a challenge?

Tbf I don't think many people bar Craig & Crossface can lead the life Andy lives and still function normally. Storytime with Craig interestes, excites, astounds and disturbs me. He still hasn't told us about the time he passed out on a hill and was awoken by a group of kids on a tour (or something like that).

As for the Lita discussion. Can't say I watched enough of her matches to really hold an opinion of her. Lunatic bumper who was a perfect fit for the Attitude Era, but her and Trish have never really felt 'as good' as others make them out to be. Solid and dependable compared to some of the headcases who've represented the company as a Diva, but hardly groundbreaking or 'very good' workers when you compare them to say some of the Joshi folk (though that's a really unfair comparison given how Joshi was treated in Japan compared to Divas in WWE). FWIW I wouldn't try to compare Trish to an Aja Kong, because its unfair to Trish on a number of levels, but I can't help but point to it as an example of what I consider to be a truly talented female worker. I'm not using that to discredit Trish, since she was never given the chance to ever approach the talent of someone like Kong or Jaguar Yokoto.

As for the HOF, for whatever reason I've never really watched an acceptance speech. I can't imagine how good it is to take in live, and considering some of those who have made the cut you'd think I'd want to hear them discuss their careers and rejoice in getting recognition for their work, even if its hardly the prestigious award its marketed as. Still for whatever reason, I've never felt compelled to watch anything from it. Strange.
I'll give it a go. Or I can hope Seabs will find it for me. I know he has it.

I'm a tad envious. I have the mindset to live my life in such a mindfuck of a fashion. I'll head to Scotland to learn.

I should try to compare Trish to Aja Kong. I'll write up a 10 paragraph analysis on the subject. I'll have to make sure I have a bottle of rum with me. To get the creative juices flowing. The hate I could bring with the possibilities there.
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Aja Kong smokes 90% of male wrestlers without any tiny doubt in my mind so I'd like to read her compared to Stratus.
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