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Old 12-24-2012, 10:47 PM   #12631 (permalink)
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Too many people take this stuff to heart. Its wrestling! Its a live action cartoon, as its always has been. I can't believe people let a brief 10 year period (1997-2008) of blood and sex dictate how wrestling, particularly WWE is "supposed to be".


All this corny stuff happened in the 80s and early to mid 90s too. I mean I watched WWF when Bastion Booger and Duke Drosse were on cards....fuck! There's no way anyone on TV right now can chase me away.
That's what happens when the WWE section is plagued by 14 year old twats who saw something, see it getting put over, and jump on the bandwagon.

Gobbly Gooker debuted the same night in the WWF as THE UNDERTAKER. See, wrestling (WWE for this point) has always had it's share of ups and downs. No matter what decade, era, or year it was in.

I liked the colorful cheesiness of the early 90's & late 80's. It's a lot of fun. The '95 shows were said to be really bad, but I'm actually a mark for them. Some matches suck. Sure, but some matches suck on most PPVs. The good always outweights the bad in the long run. Unless it's WrestleMania 27. The scales weren't exactly tipped evenly that night.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:48 PM   #12632 (permalink)
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BUT... What if Taker-HHH evens things out ?

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The product is what you make of it tbh. I was marking out like a bitch during Ryback/punk HIAC of all matches.

I really don't have any issues with the current product. The only time I really didn't give a crap was during May/June round there. Then again, those are always 2 months where WWE is at heir lowest. They just cruise for a while and then by the end of June they start to build things up for Summerslam.

But yeah, I enjoy today's product. Damien Sandow, PTP, Daniel Bryan, Cody Rhodes, Clay (well not so much as this next guy I'm about to call) Santino motherfucking Marella, 3MB, Orton, Punk, Del Rio (recently) and Cena are all characters that I like. My favourte wrestler right now is John Cena. Unless he's facing Punk, fuck you Cena! lol.

Those are the guys I really. Well Clay...meh. As for Divas, i think Eve is a phenomenal worker. She knows how to work a character into a match. Eve vs Laya NOC id a match that both men and women should take a look at if they want to learn how to work character into a match. And she's gotten better since. The whole taking photos thing, I like that shit. Damn, I even find enjoyment in the Divas division. Well if today's product could entertain me like that, then quite frankly I will never get bored of WWE. Unless they go down the RAW 2009 route, then we'll have some problems.

Then there's guys like Kidd, Gabriel, Usos (who I also mark for, I think they're Usos chant is getting over with the crowd) and a bunch of other talent who provide some fun matches. As evident by tonight 12 man tag. BTW, what did you guys think of it? It was insane!!

So yeah the current product, in its own way, sort of rocks.
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Oh, I think today is very different from anyother era, whether it be Attitude Era, New Generation, 80s, etc. The talent is completely different. In any of those eras, the wrestlers had the territories to develop their character, mic skills and a chance to really hone their craft and develop their in-ring skills. They got to work in front of live crowds in different cities every night and a real chance to gauge where their skill was.

Today, you don't have that and it really, really shows. These guys are given promos to read and memorize and say on TV. WWE developmental molds these guys into the "WWE style" and what they want them to be. It's a completely different ballgame now. The writing is also awful right now. Lots of it makes no sense. There is also a lack of a big fight feel, which ties into the dead crowd thing. No heat. It's just not very compelling.

True. But ultimately when you came to the 'E or rather the 'Fed you had to work the "style", its that simple. It wasn't called the "WWE style" but everyone knew it. WWF programming was much different from AWA, NWA/WCW & ECW programming. It was much more about characters and generating interest than actual skill.


Also RAW shows lack heat, PPV does well on fan reactions. Which is why I only really take PPV offerings seriously, a lot of the stuff has some build up and the crowds are more invested than on RAW or SDs.


Its strange you mention the "big fight" feel considering the epics dropped this year. Rock/Cena, Punk/Jericho, Sheamus/Bryan, Punk/Bryan, Punk/Cena, Lesnar/Cena, Lesnar/HHH, Undertaker/HHH, Ziggler/Cena etc all "big fights" that fans were up for. There's plenty of "big fights" they just aren't giving them away on TV anymore...which can be a drag at times but they don't have to and considering the amount of PPVs they have its smarter not to.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:58 PM   #12635 (permalink)
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True. But ultimately when you came to the 'E or rather the 'Fed you had to work the "style", its that simple. It wasn't called the "WWE style" but everyone knew it. WWF programming was much different from AWA, NWA/WCW & ECW programming. It was much more about characters and generating interest than actual skill.


Also RAW shows lack heat, PPV does well on fan reactions. Which is why I only really take PPV offerings seriously, a lot of the stuff has some build up and the crowds are more invested than on RAW or SDs.


Its strange you mention the "big fight" feel considering the epics dropped this year. Rock/Cena, Punk/Jericho, Sheamus/Bryan, Punk/Bryan, Punk/Cena, Lesnar/Cena, Lesnar/HHH, Undertaker/HHH, Ziggler/Cena etc all "big fights" that fans were up for. There's plenty of "big fights" they just aren't giving them away on TV anymore...which can be a drag at times but they don't have to and considering the amount of PPVs they have its smarter not to.
Yeah, out of all of those, the only ones that I would truly put as "big fights" (on paper) are Rock/Cena (which wasn't good), Lesnar/Cena, and Taker/Triple H.
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Lolz. The ones that only included Attitude Era guys & one from Ruthless Aggression. Shocker.
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Yeah, out of all of those, the only ones that I would truly put as "big fights" (on paper) are Rock/Cena (which wasn't good), Lesnar/Cena, and Taker/Triple H.
Dude, did you watch TLC? I mean I wouldn't classify Cena/Ziggler as big fight but it had the feel. The crowd was nuts throughout. Oh and I just remembered. Sheamus/Ziggler NWO was another match the crowd gave a big fight feel to.

Oh yeah and you're telling me The Shield vs Team Hell no and Ryback didn't have a big fight feel to it? That right there is what you call a defining moment.

Every era has its ups and downs and this era is certainly no different. To me the positives will always far outweigh the negatives.
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Dude, did you watch TLC? I mean I wouldn't classify Cena/Ziggler as big fight but it had the feel. The crowd was nuts throughout. Oh and I just remembered. Sheamus/Ziggler NWO was another match the crowd gave a big fight feel to.

Oh yeah and you're telling me The Shield vs Team Hell no and Ryback didn't have a big fight feel to it? That right there is what you call a defining moment.

Every era has its ups and downs and this era is certainly no different. To me the positives will always far outweigh the negatives.
I'm talking about big time main events. And the only reason the Cena/Ziggler match had a great feel to it is because it was in NY and everyone there wanted to see Cena lose. Not because they've been waiting for this match for a long time or there is any heat in their "feud."
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To me, it's not even about sex and blood. (couldn't care less about either in a wrestling show, specially the former) I just find the product BORING. I wish I could be optimistic but I can't. It's so boring that I'll probably fall asleep the next time I'll try to watch a full 3 hours show. Punk equals a bullet to the head for me and the rest of the roster are either badly handled (Bryan) or extremely bland. I mean I like Sheamus and a little bit Ryback but that's not enough to keep me watching this boring product.

Only thing that brings me back at this point is The Rock and that's a quick fix only.
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Oh come on dude. Please, tell me you didn't just claim that show to have a great crowd but not b/c it had with anything to do with the fans wanting to enjoy the product. DOLPH was mega-over. Doubt he'd be mega over if the fans only wanted Cena to lose and had no personal investment in anything else.

They were into the event.
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