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Old 12-23-2012, 07:16 PM   #12501 (permalink)
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As discussed on earlier pages, I agree, fuck Meltzer. Oh and to the guy who said that those who don't take Meltzer's ratings seriously don't understand the business, what the fuck does Meltzer know at this point? Meltzer has lost all concept of pro wrestling. The guy has forgotten what a good fucking match is. The guy has forgotten just what the fuck ring psychology. The fact that that idiot could even give Richards/Elgin 5 stars just shows how much he's really lost his fucking mind. At one point I could have considered Meltzer to be a good journalist but honestly the guy has forgotten everything about wrestling and favours these indy spottfests over actual wrestling.

Anywho, as for best PPVs of he year it's definitely

1) Extreme Rules
2) TLC




12) Wrestlemania 28
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:30 PM   #12502 (permalink)
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Extreme Rules was my favourite from this year from WWE. But in all honesty, my favourite wrestling PPV of this year was Slammiversary.
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:50 PM   #12503 (permalink)
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Came up with a way to rank the WWE PPV's this year.

Points System:

Solid - 1
Good - 2
Great - 3
Epic - 5
MOTY - 2

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Royal Rumble - 3

Bryan Vs Show Vs Henry - Solid
Punk Vs Ziggler - Good

Elimination Chamber - 0

I literally didn't like ANYTHING from this show. Last Chamber match I liked was probably back in 2010.

WrestleMania - 11

Kane Vs Orton - Solid
Undertaker Vs HHH - Epic
Punk Vs Jericho - Epic

Extreme Rules - 11

Sheamus Vs Bryan - Epic
Punk Vs Jericho - Good
Cena Vs Lesnar - Epic

Over The Limit - 7

Punk Vs Bryan - Epic & MOTY

No Way Out - 6

Sheamus Vs Ziggler - Great
Christian Vs Cody - Solid
Punk Vs Kane Vs Bryan - Good

Money in the Bank - 2

Punk Vs Bryan - Good

SummerSlam - 6

Jericho Vs Ziggler - Solid
Bryan Vs Kane - Solid
Punk Vs Show Vs Cena - Solid
Lesnar Vs HHH - Great

Night of Champions - 7

Orton Vs Ziggler - Good
Eve Vs Layla - Good
Punk Vs Cena - Great

Hell in a Cell - 4

Team Rhodes Scholars Vs Team Hell No - Solid
Show Vs Sheamus - Great

Survior Series- 2

Sheamus Vs Show - Good

TLC - 3

Shield Vs Team Hell No & Ryback - Great

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Ranking The PPV's

12. Elimination Chamber - 0
11. Money in the Bank - 2
10. Survior Series- 2 (preferred Show/Sheamus to Bryan/Punk from MITB)
09. Royal Rumble - 3
08. TLC - 3 (TLC match > Both RR matches combined)
07. Hell in a Cell - 4
06. No Way Out - 6
05. SummerSlam - 6 (SS had an extra match that I liked, plus HHH/Lesnar > Sheamus/Ziggler)
04. Night of Champions - 7
03. Over The Limit - 7 (Has my MOTY so beats out NOC on that alone)
02. WrestleMania - 11
01. Extreme Rules - 11 (2 Epics and a Great > 2 Epics and a solid)
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Cal, you don't like the SD '11 Chamber?!
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Cal, you don't like the SD '11 Chamber?!
Just looked it up. Thought it was from 2010 . Still wouldn't call it great though, just good.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:14 PM   #12506 (permalink)
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The Fatal Four Way from Over the Limit is pretty solid IMO. And I prefer it to Punk/Bryan too.

CM Punk vs JBL (SummerSlam 2008)
Disappointed at how boring it was. JBL is clearly past his prime and both men look like they are bored and going through the motions. JBL controls a large portion of the 11 or so minutes and there's far too much time spent on restholds for me to care. Plus the action is so basic with JBL going for a pin, then getting Punk up for a random suplex until the end when the match becomes more even. And Punk's offense is also pretty boring as it's mostly kicks with the exception of him using his typically awful Suicide Dive variation, a Crossbody and obviously the GTS. The finish is also rather anticlimactic and the bored commentary plus mostly dead crowd didn't help. ★★

Might give Punk's matches with Jeff Hardy a watch later, surely I'll enjoy them more than this.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:25 PM   #12507 (permalink)
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As discussed on earlier pages, I agree, fuck Meltzer. Oh and to the guy who said that those who don't take Meltzer's ratings seriously don't understand the business, what the fuck does Meltzer know at this point? Meltzer has lost all concept of pro wrestling. The guy has forgotten what a good fucking match is. The guy has forgotten just what the fuck ring psychology. The fact that that idiot could even give Richards/Elgin 5 stars just shows how much he's really lost his fucking mind. At one point I could have considered Meltzer to be a good journalist but honestly the guy has forgotten everything about wrestling and favours these indy spottfests over actual wrestling.
I don't concern myself with Meltzer's views or star ratings either but I wouldn't say he's an idiot or anything along those lines. At the end of the day he's just a wrestling fan voicing his opinions, like us. Different people are going to like different things in a match, simple as that.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:37 PM   #12508 (permalink)
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So re-watched Lesnar/Cena. Match still holds up for me. ****1/2

And I got around to watching Punk/Bryan OTL and I don't know. This match doesn't do much for me. I'm just not a fan of it and I'm not high on it like most people. I thought the first half of the match was great but things started to breakdown by the second half. D-Bryan leg work was completely ignored by the second half of the match.

He did try to incorporate it still in that when he pull the pads down as was hitting Punk knees to the gut he would hold his knee afterwards but it's like Punk just said "fuck it" and never considered it as part of the match anymore. The spot where the two are on the turnbucke and Punk knocks Bryan down, you can clearly see Bryan lying on the rope with his knee tangled trying to implement the story of the damaged knee in the match. However, it looks like CM Punk just told him to get up so that he could hit his fancy clothesline. To me that's what it looked like, anybody else? Like if you look closely you will see Bryan tangled in the ropes trying to sell the knee but then he just gets up like that completely forgetting about it.

The finishing stretch was just both men going at 90mph countering one another's offense and going for roll ups. I liked the finish. All in all it's not a bad match but I just don't see anything great about it or MOTY worthy. It's quite forgettable actually.

***3/4
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After reading Sharkboy's review of Punk/Bryan, I decided to immediately watch it to see if it still holds up at 5 stars. I'm also going to go back and watch all the other matches on my top 10 list to see if they still hold up.

For Punk/Bryan, it holds up easily. The match is just awesome from bell to bell. The pace is quick and the two show no signs of slowing down throughout the match. The start with Punk working on Bryan's legs and Bryan's selling is all excellent, and the same thing later with Bryan working on Punk's ribs and Punk's selling. They just kept throwing everything out of their arsenal at each other and then some. There are two things I especially love about this match. One is that I can't pinpoint a clear face/heel. While obviously they had their alignments on the build up, if you showed this to someone who's never watched wrestling ever before, I doubt they could tell you who the bad guy was and who the good guy was. It's something I love to see in matches rather than the standard good guy/bad guy formula for WWE. I said this recently, but Bryan looked absolutely amazing in this match, which he needed after looking like shit against Sheamus and being very weakly booked as WHC. The two men were evenly matched and that all the better. The second thing I really love about the match is that everything that was coming was just unpredictable. I forgot what to expect in the match outside of a few spots, and it's one of the things that kept the match interesting. The counters as well were all well-done and used in the right spots. The crowd was on fire, Punk retained the title in the best way possible while still keeping the feud going, and it just felt like a true wrestling contest... or as close as we'll get in WWE nowadays. Match is still 5 stars and easily MOTY imo unless another match ends up 5 stars (only match I could see doing that based on memory is the TLC match, and even that is unlikely imo).

But yeah, speaking of which, next match on my list is the 6-man TLC. Obviously this was just on a week ago so it's still fresh in my head, but let's see if it holds up on third watch. I said it was my favorite match of the year on the night of TLC, so let's see what happens.
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Match holds up at ****3/4 for me easily. I've watched it a good 6 or 7 times this year and I like it the same each time.
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