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How were Lesnar's matches in Japan? Haven't seen any of them.
Do yourself a favor, don't bother.

Brock seem to just go threw the motions most of his time there. Remembering seeing Lesnar vs. Angle and it wasn't half as fun as their WWE matches.

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That match with HHH might be my least favorite HHH match of all time. Trips gets DAT WIN BACK in a Smackdown match featured on the Unreleased Collectors series, so it's all good. What a terrible match though.

In comparison to what I said about Brock ; let's look at a guy who many consider to be one of the best workers today in Dolph Ziggler. The guy has been working on and off with the WWE since like 2006 (three times as long as Lesnar) , and I have less than five of his matches at ****+. Honestly seems like half of Lesnar's matches are atleast ***+, with the rest of them being squashes .





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w/Saturn/Pac/Malenko/Benoit vs Foley/Rock/Rikishi/Sexay/Taylor Raw ****
This match is so awesome. I wish WWE could put something like this together again. God knows they have the perfect talent at their disposal currently.

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Yeah, but Lesnar was immediately thrust into the main event against people like Benoit and Angle, who, at the time, was putting on ****+ matches all the time. Ziggler has been midcard/upper midcard for his entire career and, aside from working with Bryan, hasn't had the luxury of working with the calibur of people that Lesnar did. Not taking anything away from Lesnar - the guy is fucking incredible - but it's a little unfair to compare their respective match resumes.

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This match is so awesome. I wish WWE could put something like this together again. God knows they have the perfect talent at their disposal currently.
Raw 04 has an even better 8 man tag:

Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit, Mick Foley & Shelton Benjamin v HHH, Ric Flair, Randy Orton & Batista - RAW, 4/12/04

Totally fucking awesome.

Agreed with Reindeer Killer, not really fair to compare Lesnar and Ziggler. Lesnar spent 2 years working the absolute BEST in main event matches. Ziggler started off as Kerwin White's manager then upgraded to male cheerleader .



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3 Stages of Hell TIME!!!!, I hope this still holds up.

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Agreed with the Evolution tag being better than the 00 tag, although both are fucking AWESOME.

I don't know about not being able to compare DOLPH and BROCK tbh. I understand that Brock worked with some GREAT workers over his tenure, but the fact that he wrestled in these matches despite this being his ROOKIE year in the WWE blows my mind. Compare Brock's first year to say... RYBACK's first year (Ryback has actually been in the business much longer than Lesnar). Both worked a Hell in a Cell match with the best worker in the comapny, Lesnar held his own, while Ryback sucked dick. HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DOING THOSE THINGS.

In all fairness, DOLPH has worked 18 more PPV matches than BROCK (don't know how many of them have been Spirit Squad matches ; probably like 5) , and Brock still blows him out of the water.





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Damn I need to watch the Evolution tag. Drawing a huge blank.





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I just thought about this ; Has there been anybody in history who fucked up their own mega-push as bad as Rob Van Dam did ?

I mean, the guy pinned Cena when NOBODY else was doing it, he became the face of WWE's newest brand whilst at the same time winning the WWE Championship, and he was SUPER fucking over. Could have been a top guy for a few more years but NOPE, him and Sabu had the FUCK IT ALL UP with their love for drugs

Fuck this DVD is so much better than anything I've watched lately





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Yeah, I don't remember too much about that tag either. I might even see that later on.

Btw, I'm interested in watching some old Raw shows. Is Raw "The Beginning": The Best of Seasons 1 & 2 worth picking up for that sort of thing? It's cheap now but I'm wondering how good it is with seeing a shitload of Doink on it?


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