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Old 12-17-2012, 04:03 PM   #11741 (permalink)
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Rhodes Scholars vs Mysterio & Cara - ***
Really refreshing to see a match that isn't your typical formulaic tag match. WWE really need to throw more stipulations matches if they can't find ways to make tag matches interesting. Props to Sin Cara for bumping like a boss in this.

The Shield vs Ryback & Team Hell No - ***1/2
Not as big of a fan as everyone else is of this match, but this was super fun. Ambrose and Bryan stole the show with Ambrose's brilliant bumping and facial expressions and Bryan's spunky little comeback was also awesome. Just pure chaos.

Big Show vs Sheamus - ***
These two can do no wrong together but I think their other matches together were better. I wish Sheamus would stop kicking out of the KO Punch and that giant chair spot was ...weird.

John Cena vs Dolph Ziggler - ***
A mixed bag but I mostly enjoyed this. The AJ stuff outside of the big swerve was awful and there was some awkward setting-up and obvious cooperation in some spots. However, I did love some moments like the opening matwork and that awesome spot where Cena deadlifting Ziggler and the ladder. I was pleased with what I got here.
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:05 PM   #11742 (permalink)
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Watched the three Extreme Rules main events again for my MOTY list. Here was how the matches compared to my last viewing :

Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan

Last Watch : **** 1/2
This Watch : **** 1/4

CM Punk vs Chris Jericho

Last Watch : **** 1/4
This Watch : ****

Brock Lesnar vs John Cena

Last Watch : *****
This Watch : *****

This was the best PPV of the year BY FAR IMO , and these three matches were exactly the reason why. Sheamus vs Bryan was fucking amazing due to Danielson's awesome shoulder work and Sheamus's superior selling in a big match situation ; him and Punk will probably tear the house down with a few classics in 2013 or 2014. The 2/3 falls gimmick worked awesome with a ton of emphasis being placed on the first fall which I adored. Not as good as the four and a half I placed on it in September, but it's still an all time classic and Sheamus's best match in his career so far.

The Punk-Jericho match is REALLY hit or miss. I can understand somebody rating this anywhere from three and a quarter to four and a quarter depending on their taste for both guys and how they like the whole "spot-stop-spot-story" storytelling style they were going for here. Personally, I loved it and it's a damn near classic encounter, but it's not as god as their Wrestlemania match due to the work not being as good, and the story not being as subtle. If you factor crowd reaction into your ratings, this match would be MUCH higher than the WM XXVIII matchup btw, but personally I would find it on the low end of **** (probably *** 3/4 if I didn't love Phil so much ).

Cena vs Lesnar... WOW. What the fuck can I say about this match other than it's the most unique wrestling match we've seen over the last ... FOREVER. Seriously, the vibe that I got from this match was so intense and so contradictory to what the current product is about that it's insane, and ALOT of that can be attributed to the sheer intensity of Lesnar. The storytelling was out of this world ; Lesnar is UNSTOPPABLE , Cena is vulnerable, HOLY SHIT CENA IS GETTING DESTROYED. To those who rate this match lower because of the ending ; fuck you. The stiffness of the match mixed with the incredible character development that we saw, mixed with the immense storytelling and brutality makes this one of the best matches in WWE history IMO.

Personally, it's the finest example of storytelling in a wrestling match in 15 years.

Updated RANKINGZ

1. Lesnar-Cena (ER)
2. Punk-Jericho (WM)
3. Taker-HHH (WM)
4. Sheamus-Bryan (ER)
5. Punk-Jericho (ER)

Gonna rewatch the Punk-Bryan PPV matches next
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WWE TLC: Tables, Ladders, & Chairs 2012


1) Tables Match
Rhodes Scholars (Cody Rhodes & Damien Sandow) vs Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara ~ *3/4


2) WWE United States Championship
Antonio Cesaro(c) vs R-Truth ~ *1/4


3) WWE Intercontinental Championship
Kofi Kingston(c) vs Wade Barrett ~ **


4) Tables, Ladders, & Chairs Match
Team Hell No (Kane & Daniel Bryan) & Ryback vs The Shield (Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, & Roman Reigns ~ ****1/2


5) WWE Divas Championship
Eve Torres(c) vs Naomi Night ~ DUD


6) World Heavyweight Championship - Chairs Match
Big Show(c) vs Sheamus ~ **3/4


7) Mike Mizanin, Alberto Del Rio, & Brooklyn Brawler vs 3MB (Heath Slater, Drew McIntyre, & Jinder Mahal) ~ 1/2*


8) Ladder Match - World Heavyweight Championship Money in the Bank Briefcase
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs John Cena ~ ***1/2



~ Not PPV of the year, but one of the overall better show thanks to the pure entertainment it brought. I'd put it behind Extreme Rules, WrestleMania, & Money in the Bank. Yet to see Night of Champions, but right now TLC ranks at #4.

~ Opener was absolutely nothing special. Just there. I liked the steel steps spot & the finish. Rhodes Scholars are great. Luchadores brought nothing to the table. Not even Mysterio. Right team won. Great pop for the heels.

~ CESARO SWAG. Nothing special, but since it was a 6 1/2 minute showcase for my current favorite on the roster, I liked it. Truth stinks, got dominated, Neutralizer, done. Plus promo time for the champ.

~ I liked the MizTV segment. It was goofy, but it had a purpose. Del Rio turned face by the looks of it and got a pop! I marked for that. I'm already down for Del Rio as a face. Been wanting it for far too long now. It's here. Lets see what's next.

~ Intercontinental championship was loads better than what I figured. Only problem is it had only two memorable points of the match. The slick into the ring jump & quick dive to the outside by Kofi & the nice Bull Hammer elbow transition into Trouble in Paradise. Other than that it was decent with nothing of note. Kept at a fast pace so I can understand why that appealed to more people. Wrong man went over here, but if it means the feud is continuing, well so be it. I still see Barrett winning the gold soon.

~ TLC match...wow. Simply put: I MARKED FOR ALL OF IT. I was kid in a candy store while watching. That's where the high rating comes from me. It was everything it needed to be. Had a great buzz surrounding the match too. All aspects were done so well. Everyone left smelling like a rose when it was all over. Brye made a point, whether jokingly or not, that he wanted this to come off like a ROH style brawl back in their glory days. Honestly, I think that is exactly what we got. So much fun. Too much fun almost, haha. I haven't marked for a match like this since, well only since July with Punker vs Danielson at MITB, BUT I can sufficiently that my excitement here went above and beyond. I want to have this feeling on every PPV. It's truly the reason why I watch. Blackout on the chair, Ambrose's facial expressions, & Rollins DYING at the end were all But, fuck me did Rollins die hard. As long as he's ok, then it's all good. So brutal. So awesome. So much fun.

~ Divas...appropriate filler. Naomi had some nice spots to show how athletic she can be. Unfortunately she got sloppy towards the end. You can tell she got gassed early. Maybe working the battle royal earlier in the night hurt her. Eve wins with one move. Only 3 minutes. Expected DUD, but didn't hurt anything.

~ World Championship was a disappointing bout. Granted, it was solid. Whoever said Show felt like he was on cruise control till the end was spot on. He didn't feel too invested in the whole match. I LOVED the finish with the gigantic chair. Both equal parts incredible & comical. Surreal Big Show win was one hell of a surprise. Didn't understand it either. Sheamus really can't beat Show? Ok then. I like Show, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't pulling big for a Sheamus win here. Always love the guy.

~ Another filler. Did nothing except for turn Del Rio & give 3MB some more showcasing. Brawler was...yeah. Mahal ate the loss. So I can't say I care. Heath Slater & Drew McIntyre OWN imo.

~ Really good main event. Nothing GREAT, but really good. I liked it. Ending wasn't a surprise. Glad she didn't join up with Dolph like so many on this site claimed. Isn't needed. Marked at the sleephold on the ladder ---> falling through the table spot. Was cool. While it was FAR from perfect, Cena busting out the snap hurricanrana to put Dolph through at table was legendary, haha. DOLPH WINS A WWE PPV MAIN EVENT. Safe to say I left this PPV with a big smile on my face.
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Masks/Facial hair - **1/2
Cesaro/Truth - *1/2
Barrett/Kofi - **
6-Man TLC - ****
Eve/Naomi - 1/2*
Show/Sheamus - ***
6-Man Bollocks - N/A was running low on time so skipped this. Probably wouldn't have paid attention regardless.
Cena/Ziggler - ***1/2

Probably have that TLC match as my 5th best of the year. I think the entire PPV suffered a little bit after that - the crowd was even more dead than usual for the divas because they were still reeling after that carnage. Couldn't get into either mid-card title matches because I simply didn't care - I knew Cesaro would retain and the I-C match...meh. I actually like both guys but they shouldn't be facing each other; it's like they're both in development hell just floundering around with no story. Except the WILDCAT thing. Part of me wants Cesaro to drop the U.S. belt (to a decent opponent though) just so he can move up a tier and have PPV matches with credible folk.

Happy that AJ turned on Cena (one of the pops of the night ) but I don't think it'll lead to a heel turn. Just adds to her mental instability side and acts like Cena was rejecting her so gave him some payback. If she was going heel she'd have snogged Ziggler there and then. Still think heel Eve vs face AJ at Mania is nailed on.

Should I watch the pre-show? Because it looked like Naomi's tits were close to popping out

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Knowing Meltzer he'd give it ****3/4 and say he docked a 1/4* because they didn't climb enough ladders.
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) Tables Match
Rhodes Scholars (Cody Rhodes & Damien Sandow) vs Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara ~ **


2) WWE United States Championship
Antonio Cesaro(c) vs R-Truth ~ **


3) WWE Intercontinental Championship
Kofi Kingston(c) vs Wade Barrett ~ ** 1/2


4) Tables, Ladders, & Chairs Match
Team Hell No (Kane & Daniel Bryan) & Ryback vs The Shield (Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, & Roman Reigns ~ ****1/2


5) WWE Divas Championship
Eve Torres(c) vs Naomi Night ~ DUD


6) World Heavyweight Championship - Chairs Match
Big Show(c) vs Sheamus ~ **3/4 - ***


7) Mike Mizanin, Alberto Del Rio, & Brooklyn Brawler vs 3MB (Heath Slater, Drew McIntyre, & Jinder Mahal) ~ 1/2*


8) Ladder Match - World Heavyweight Championship Money in the Bank Briefcase
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs John Cena ~ ***1/2 - *** 3/4
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WWE TLC: Tables, Ladders, & Chairs 2012


1) Tables Match
Rhodes Scholars (Cody Rhodes & Damien Sandow) vs Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara ~ *3/4


2) WWE United States Championship
Antonio Cesaro(c) vs R-Truth ~ *1/4


3) WWE Intercontinental Championship
Kofi Kingston(c) vs Wade Barrett ~ **


4) Tables, Ladders, & Chairs Match
Team Hell No (Kane & Daniel Bryan) & Ryback vs The Shield (Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, & Roman Reigns ~ ****1/2


5) WWE Divas Championship
Eve Torres(c) vs Naomi Night ~ DUD


6) World Heavyweight Championship - Chairs Match
Big Show(c) vs Sheamus ~ **3/4


7) Mike Mizanin, Alberto Del Rio, & Brooklyn Brawler vs 3MB (Heath Slater, Drew McIntyre, & Jinder Mahal) ~ 1/2*


8) Ladder Match - World Heavyweight Championship Money in the Bank Briefcase
Dolph Ziggler(c) vs John Cena ~ ***1/2



~ Not PPV of the year, but one of the overall better show thanks to the pure entertainment it brought. I'd put it behind Extreme Rules, WrestleMania, & Money in the Bank. Yet to see Night of Champions, but right now TLC ranks at #4.

~ Opener was absolutely nothing special. Just there. I liked the steel steps spot & the finish. Rhodes Scholars are great. Luchadores brought nothing to the table. Not even Mysterio. Right team won. Great pop for the heels.

~ CESARO SWAG. Nothing special, but since it was a 6 1/2 minute showcase for my current favorite on the roster, I liked it. Truth stinks, got dominated, Neutralizer, done. Plus promo time for the champ.

~ I liked the MizTV segment. It was goofy, but it had a purpose. Del Rio turned face by the looks of it and got a pop! I marked for that. I'm already down for Del Rio as a face. Been wanting it for far too long now. It's here. Lets see what's next.

~ Intercontinental championship was loads better than what I figured. Only problem is it had only two memorable points of the match. The slick into the ring jump & quick dive to the outside by Kofi & the nice Bull Hammer elbow transition into Trouble in Paradise. Other than that it was decent with nothing of note. Kept at a fast pace so I can understand why that appealed to more people. Wrong man went over here, but if it means the feud is continuing, well so be it. I still see Barrett winning the gold soon.

~ TLC match...wow. Simply put: I MARKED FOR ALL OF IT. I was kid in a candy store while watching. That's where the high rating comes from me. It was everything it needed to be. Had a great buzz surrounding the match too. All aspects were done so well. Everyone left smelling like a rose when it was all over. Brye made a point, whether jokingly or not, that he wanted this to come off like a ROH style brawl back in their glory days. Honestly, I think that is exactly what we got. So much fun. Too much fun almost, haha. I haven't marked for a match like this since, well only since July with Punker vs Danielson at MITB, BUT I can sufficiently that my excitement here went above and beyond. I want to have this feeling on every PPV. It's truly the reason why I watch. Blackout on the chair, Ambrose's facial expressions, & Rollins DYING at the end were all But, fuck me did Rollins die hard. As long as he's ok, then it's all good. So brutal. So awesome. So much fun.

~ Divas...appropriate filler. Naomi had some nice spots to show how athletic she can be. Unfortunately she got sloppy towards the end. You can tell she got gassed early. Maybe working the battle royal earlier in the night hurt her. Eve wins with one move. Only 3 minutes. Expected DUD, but didn't hurt anything.

~ World Championship was a disappointing bout. Granted, it was solid. Whoever said Show felt like he was on cruise control till the end was spot on. He didn't feel too invested in the whole match. I LOVED the finish with the gigantic chair. Both equal parts incredible & comical. Surreal Big Show win was one hell of a surprise. Didn't understand it either. Sheamus really can't beat Show? Ok then. I like Show, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't pulling big for a Sheamus win here. Always love the guy.

~ Another filler. Did nothing except for turn Del Rio & give 3MB some more showcasing. Brawler was...yeah. Mahal ate the loss. So I can't say I care. Heath Slater & Drew McIntyre OWN imo.

~ Really good main event. Nothing GREAT, but really good. I liked it. Ending wasn't a surprise. Glad she didn't join up with Dolph like so many on this site claimed. Isn't needed. Marked at the sleephold on the ladder ---> falling through the table spot. Was cool. While it was FAR from perfect, Cena busting out the snap hurricanrana to put Dolph through at table was legendary, haha. DOLPH WINS A WWE PPV MAIN EVENT. Safe to say I left this PPV with a big smile on my face.
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