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Old 12-17-2012, 11:02 AM   #11711 (permalink)
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TLC match from last night holds up at ****1/2 on second viewing and second best match of the year. Fucking awesome brawl with awesome spots that set up nicely. Ryback through the announce table. Rollins through the 4 tables at the end (well... he only went through two unfortunately for him). The barricade spot was awesome. Ambrose's face off the suplex from Ryback to the ladder is GOAT worthy. The superplex off the table on the top rope to Bryan was sick. Ryback looked like a beast walking back to the ring right at the end, and it have the vibe that Ambrose and Reins needed to finish Bryan off right then and there or they'd get fucked up. Had me on the edge of my seat on both viewings. The Shield has a classic match as their debut... fuck, it makes me want to see more of them. And Ryback of course adds this match to his resume as his best match to date... and chances are it may be the best match of his career. Bryan adds another classic to his resume and this may be Kane's best match as well come to think of it.

While I do think Punk/Bryan is the overall MOTY, this 6-man tag is probably the most fun match I've watched since... well... since... I'm not honestly sure. I'd have to think about it. Haven't really seen anyone say anything bad about the match either (although I'm sure there are those people out there).

I do want to re-watch the Cena/Ziggler ladder match tonight of tomorrow. Ended up falling asleep as Sheamus/Show was going on. Poor Sheamus/Show. That match suffers from poor placement. I just didn't find it that good following the TLC match, and I was too exhausted to give a damn after that.

Ratings for TLC (matches up until and including the TLC match are second viewing, except Cesaro/Truth, and the rest of the matches I still have to give a proper re-watch)

Rhodes Scholars vs. Mysterio/Cara (Tables) - ***
Antonio Cesaro (c) vs. R-Truth - **1/2
Kofi Kingston (c) vs. Wade Barrett - ***
The Shield vs. Ryback & Team Hell No (TLC) - ****1/2
Big Show (c) vs. Sheamus (Chairs) - **3/4
The Miz, Alberto Del Rio & Brooklyn Brawler vs. 3MB - *
Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena (Ladder) - ****
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:06 AM   #11712 (permalink)
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Might as well throw out some stars too:

Rhodes Scholars vs. Mysterio/Cara (Tables) - **
Antonio Cesaro (c) vs. R-Truth - -*
Kofi Kingston (c) vs. Wade Barrett - LOLNO. Like I was ever gonna watch this.
The Shield vs. Ryback & Team Hell No (TLC) - ****
Big Show (c) vs. Sheamus (Chairs) - **3/4
The Miz, Alberto Del Rio & Brooklyn Brawler vs. 3MB - SKIPPED. 4 out of 6 are among my most hated guys on the roster, and another is the fucking Brooklyn Brawler. How the fuck was I supposed to even attempt to watch?
Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena (Ladder) - **3/4

My ratings may look low aside from the TLC match, but I did enjoy things more than the ratings would tell you.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:12 AM   #11713 (permalink)
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Starz, because that's all that matters~!

Rhodes Scholars vs. Mysterio/Cara (Tables) - *1/2
Antonio Cesaro (c) vs. R-Truth - DUD - come at me but Truth ruined this
Kofi Kingston (c) vs. Wade Barrett - *1/2
The Shield vs. Ryback & Team Hell No (TLC) - ****1/4 added quarter a * for FUN.
Big Show (c) vs. Sheamus (Chairs) - ***1/4
The Miz, Alberto Del Rio & Brooklyn Brawler vs. 3MB - DUD
Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena (Ladder) - **1/2 - slow, plodding pace at times, ending was fun.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:18 AM   #11714 (permalink)
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I'm expecting a Ziggler cash in pretty soon, even though I don't want one. I'm digging Big Show's reign as champ thus far, the guy deserves it.
I don't want to see a Ziggler cash in anytime soon either. Actually, I'm probably one of the few people that isn't expecting a Ziggler cash in anytime soon.

Agreed with show. Damn, his reign reminds me of Henry's last year. I mean, Henry's reign was more badass but let's not discredit Show. He was given the ball and he's damn sure running with it.

I really don't want to see ADR anywhere near the title picture this early in his face run. Build him up some more as a face and sell the crowd properly on his face run first.

I really don't know if this is the end of Show/Sheamus. I'd hate to think Sheamus would win it back at Rumble because Show has had one hell of a run thus far but at the same time who else is there for Show to feud with? The thing I like bout the Rumble is that the Rumble match takes away from the title scene and that's a good thing. Some up and coming star could be given a title shot while Sheamus could slip himself into the Rumble. They used the Royal Rumble PPV twice to give Ziggler at shot at the world titles. There's got to be some midcarder that's deserving of a spot in a title match.

My dream opponent for show at this point in time would be Henry though. I wonder if he would be returning before?
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I hope Ziggler keeps the briefcase until after WM. I hate that most fans seem to think he (and everyone else that wins) need to cash it in straight away. Pretty sure after TLC he's held on to it the longest since Edge the first time around. Keep it longer, keep building him and THEN cash in when the time is right. Knowing WWE, he'll cash in AT the MITB PPV... then the new winner of the MITB from that night will cash in on HIM and win .

Midcarders who could have a title shot at the RR - Uhhh... Daniel Bryan. Kane. Triple threat? Lose the tag belts on TV to Rhodes Scholars and somehow start something with Show? Seriously, who the fuck else is there? Ryback? *shudders*

Henry should come back in the RR match and dominate. Not quite win though. Have the RR winner challenge the WWE champion after EC, and maybe make the WHC match a #1 contenders match and have Henry fucking MURDER 5 other guys inside the chamber.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:56 AM   #11716 (permalink)
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The Shield vs. Ryback and Team Hell No - ****
Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena - **3/4

I was wrong when I said I doubt any matches at TLC will change my top ten of the year. The TLC was really good. However I'm not understanding the ****1/2+ and top 3 MOTY praise it's getting. To each their own.

Final list of the top 10 matches of the year:

1. Wrestlemania XXVIII: Undertaker vs. Triple H - ****1/2
2. Over the Limit 2012: CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan - ****1/2
3. Night of Champions 2012: John Cena vs. CM Punk - ****1/4
4. Wrestlemania XXVIII: CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho - ****1/4
5. Extreme Rules 2012: CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho - ****1/4
6. Extreme Rules 2012: Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan - ****
7. WWE RAW 4/2/12: CM Punk vs. Mark Henry - ****
8. WWE TLC 2012: The Shield vs. Ryback, Daniel Bryan and Kane - ****
9. Wrestlemania XXVIII: John Cena vs. The Rock - ***3/4
10. Money in the Bank 2012: Sheamus vs. Dolph Ziggler - ***3/4
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Rhodes Scholars/Rey & Cara - ***
Cesaro/Truth - **
Kofi/Barrett - **1/2
Shield vs Hell No/Ryback - ****1/4
Show/Sheamus - ***
Pointless 6 man tag - *1/2
Ziggler/Cena - ***1/2

Best PPV since ER.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:15 PM   #11718 (permalink)
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I see Slam Sports gave the TLC match a 10/10 (Was expecting that one) and the main event got a 10/10 (Was not expecting that one) Overall, the PPV scored a 10/10 with them.

Can't say that I'd disagree.
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TLC

1. Sin Cara and Rey Mysterio vs. Rhodes Scholars - ***
2. R-Truth vs. Antonio Cesaro - **1/2
3. Kofi Kingston vs. Wade Barrett - **
4. Team Hell No and Ryback vs. The Shield - ****1/4
5. Eve vs. Naomi - DUD
6. Big Show vs. Sheamus - ***
7. The Miz, Alberto Del Rio and Brooklyn Brawler vs. 3MB - *1/2
8. John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler - ****

Two **** matches makes a good PPV. The opening tag match was pretty entertaining as well.
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Anyone has Meltzer's ratings on this? Not that I really ive a shit about his opinion but it's always nice to see what the 'pros' have to say.
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