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Old 12-16-2012, 01:35 AM   #11581 (permalink)
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Yeah, I don't buy that at all. Sin Cara is worse than a mop.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:47 AM   #11582 (permalink)
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The Mysterio/Sin Cara exchanges at Night of Champions did not get me exited about a potential match between the two. In fact it did the opposite.

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Old 12-16-2012, 01:56 AM   #11583 (permalink)
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When you look at this year , there are three Match of the Year contenders that stand out away from the rest of the crowd :

- The Undertaker vs Triple H : Wrestlemania XXVIII
- Brock Lesnar vs John Cena : Extreme Rules 2012
- CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan : Over the Limit 2012

Now, when you look at which one of these will be the UNIVERSAL MOTY 10 years from now, we have to compare their universal ratings. Taker-HHH gets a TON of MOTY consideration, though there are a few guys out there who I've seen rate the match @ less than **** (absurd IMO). Lesnar-Cena (my current MOTY , pre-rewatching all MOTY contenders) has a VERY mixed reaction due to the nature of the match and ESPECIALLY the finish. I don't rate booking implications into my match ratings, so fuck it.

That leaves Punk-Bryan from OTL as the last candidate. Now, I don't know about you guys but I haven't seen a SINGLE review for this match under **** 1/4. I've seen some give it the full five, and a vast majority give it **** 3/4+ (which I give it at the moment), so that leads me to believe that it's the universal MOTY for 2012, despite only being my personal #2.

Personally, when it comes to MOTY I pick Cena-Lesnar, but I don't think you can go wrong with Punk-Jericho (WM) , Punk-Bryan (OTL), Taker-HHH (WM) , Bryan-Sheamus (ER) or HHH-Lesnar (SS) . It's all subjective. Fuck, we should do a threadwide MOTY list where on DEC 31st we all give out top 10 matches of the year to determine what this thread considers to be the top 10 matches of the year.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA... We could do the same for individual wrestlers as well
Yer definitely I'm up for this idea, pretty much already got my top 10 list done right now and I don't really feel it will change. As I don't really see any awesome **** matches coming from TLC.

But gonna tune into most of the PPV's from this year to see if any match might sneak in or up on my list.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:10 AM   #11584 (permalink)
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What's the last iron man match WWE has done? Cena/Orton? Not that I'm dying to see an hour long match or anything but wouldn't mind if they did a 30 minute one.
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I've actually kept up with WWE enough this year to do a possible top ten. FUCK. I've, like, never done that. I'll catch TLC either live or the next day if I'm going out when it's happening just in case there's another really good match on it (aka just in case show/sheamus is awesome again). Putting that shit in order will sting, though. I can think of about six matches that are locks and a few others that IDK if I'd rank.

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I don't know how it's generally regarded, but man I thought that four-way was truly awful. Rey Mysterio has had the most depressing year ever. Mistico blows and has always blown. What's with really terrible wrestlers becoming big stars in Mexico? Mistico, Vampiro, Konnan....
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What's the last iron man match WWE has done? Cena/Orton? Not that I'm dying to see an hour long match or anything but wouldn't mind if they did a 30 minute one.
I'm down for another one. A perfect time to give out a 30 minute iron man was probably in the middle of the Punk vs Danielson matches.

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I don't know how it's generally regarded, but man I thought that four-way was truly awful. Rey Mysterio has had the most depressing year ever. Mistico blows and has always blown. What's with really terrible wrestlers becoming big stars in Mexico? Mistico, Vampiro, Konnan....
3 people in less than an hour said it's horrible. I'll buy it. The only Mysterio matches I know that were worth seeing this year was vs Danielson. And a fun bout vs Miz at Summerslam. Rest is skippable or wasn't anything noteworthy due to Rey.

Konnan & Mistico are terrible. Vampiro...I liked him. I guess that's bias since I grew up liking him back in WCW. I've seen worse in Mexico. Luckily guys like El Santo, El Hijo Del Santo, & Mysterio are gods in that country. It seems to even out when some blow up and are awful while there are very quality workers who manage to actually be deserving of the praise and respect they get.

A current portion (try majority) of Lucha is SO bad right now. Has been for years. I'd say only a few vets can actually entertain me right now. Most of the talent over there is so sloppy and don't care. I know Lucha can be wild at times, but they take it to a new level of sloppy nowadays.
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Another match type they should do more is 2 out of 3 falls. Bryan/Sheamus was superb.

Safe to say that Punk is the wrestler of the year?
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At least Konnan was good managing LAX in TNA and he taught Bret the Sharpshooter. His greatest contributions to my wrestling entertainment as far as he goes.

My Top 10 Matches of 2012

End Of An Era
Brock/Cena
Punk/Bryan OTL
Sheamus/Bryan ER
Punk/Jericho Mania
Punk/Jericho ER
Punk/Bryan MITB
Punk/Cena NOC
Punk/Henry Raw 4/02
Brock/Trips

Good year for Punk. I'm also a fan of Orton/Ziggler NOC, Bryan/Sheamus Raw 7/30, and Sheamus/Show HIAC. Rock/Cena was not the best match but the atmosphere from ringside was terrific!

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Orton/Del Rio just had a boring 2/3 Falls match on Raw a couple weeks ago. However, I would like to see guys like Bryan, Punk, and Christian in them.


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Old 12-16-2012, 02:49 AM   #11589 (permalink)
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Well I know we're supposed to wait until December 31st, but I'm impatient (plus who knows what could change based on TLC). Here's my Top 10 Matches for 2012:

10) Punk vs. Kane vs. Bryan NWO (***3/4)
9) Sheamus vs. Big Show HIAC (***3/4)
8) Punk vs. Jericho ER (***3/4)
7) Lesnar vs. Cena ER (***3/4)
6) Undertaker vs. HHH WM28 (****)
5) Punk vs. Cena NOC (****)
4) Punk vs. Henry Raw 4/2/12 (****)
3) Bryan vs. Sheamus ER (****)
2) Punk vs. Jericho WM28 (****1/2)
1) Punk vs. Bryan OTL (*****)

Number of matches for each wrestler in Top 10:
Punk- 6
Bryan- 3
Sheamus- 2
Cena- 2
Jericho- 2
Taker- 1
HHH- 1
Lesnar- 1
Henry- 1
Show- 1
Kane- 1

Can't see any match getting from TLC getting MOTY or breaking into my top 5. I could maybe see Cena/Ziggler getting into this top 10 list, and a very small chance of Show/Sheamus breaking into it, but besides that can't say I'm expecting anything else.

For TLC, I'm expecting a decent showing at least from Barrett and Kofi (thought their Raw match was good from the night after Survivor Series). Cesaro/Truth will be... well... fuck I have no idea. On one hand you have Cesaro in the match. On the other hand you have Truth. Should be at least watchable. Show/Sheamus with the fact it's a Chairs match could be either really good or really bad... as a chairs match usually is. TLC 6-man tag will be fun, but I don't expect it to be "great". Cena/Ziggler has potential to steal the show and I could see them maybe pulling off a ****+ match. And the tag match (which I think is a tables match?) could be good, but I'm not expecting anything great. I'm generally not a fan of tables matches.

So yeah, besides Cena/Ziggler, I'm not expecting much out of this PPV.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:00 AM   #11590 (permalink)
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^Highest rating I've seen for Punk/Bryan/Kane. I'll have to give that a watch.

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My Top 10 Matches of 2012

End Of An Era
Brock/Cena
Punk/Bryan OTL
Sheamus/Bryan ER
Punk/Jericho Mania
Punk/Jericho ER
Punk/Bryan MITB
Punk/Cena NOC
Punk/Henry Raw 4/02
Brock/Trips
Replace Punk/Jericho ER with Sheamus/Show HiaC and that's my top 10. Well top 9. Haven't seen Punk/Bryan MitB yet.
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