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When you look at this year , there are three Match of the Year contenders that stand out away from the rest of the crowd :

- The Undertaker vs Triple H : Wrestlemania XXVIII
- Brock Lesnar vs John Cena : Extreme Rules 2012
- CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan : Over the Limit 2012

Now, when you look at which one of these will be the UNIVERSAL MOTY 10 years from now, we have to compare their universal ratings. Taker-HHH gets a TON of MOTY consideration, though there are a few guys out there who I've seen rate the match @ less than **** (absurd IMO). Lesnar-Cena (my current MOTY , pre-rewatching all MOTY contenders) has a VERY mixed reaction due to the nature of the match and ESPECIALLY the finish. I don't rate booking implications into my match ratings, so fuck it.

That leaves Punk-Bryan from OTL as the last candidate. Now, I don't know about you guys but I haven't seen a SINGLE review for this match under **** 1/4. I've seen some give it the full five, and a vast majority give it **** 3/4+ (which I give it at the moment), so that leads me to believe that it's the universal MOTY for 2012, despite only being my personal #2.

Personally, when it comes to MOTY I pick Cena-Lesnar, but I don't think you can go wrong with Punk-Jericho (WM) , Punk-Bryan (OTL), Taker-HHH (WM) , Bryan-Sheamus (ER) or HHH-Lesnar (SS) . It's all subjective. Fuck, we should do a threadwide MOTY list where on DEC 31st we all give out top 10 matches of the year to determine what this thread considers to be the top 10 matches of the year.

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I wish Sin Cara didn't suck so much. When he came to WWE (I didn't follow his career prior) I was hoping we could have a series similar to the quality of matches Mysterio & Dragon had in WCW. Even with an older Mysterio he could add more storytelling into the match. Now I think Sin Cara would botch everything up too match and the transitions would be too rough. Oh well.

Sin Cara's best match is his Smackdown 2011 encounter with Christian. Was his first lost too, I believe.



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I swear early on in the divas match Layla smiles at Eve like if she wanted to do more than wrestle her.

Is Bryan/Kane from Summerslam worth watching?
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When you look at this year , there are three Match of the Year contenders that stand out away from the rest of the crowd :

- The Undertaker vs Triple H : Wrestlemania XXVIII
- Brock Lesnar vs John Cena : Extreme Rules 2012
- CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan : Over the Limit 2012

Now, when you look at which one of these will be the UNIVERSAL MOTY 10 years from now, we have to compare their universal ratings. Taker-HHH gets a TON of MOTY consideration, though there are a few guys out there who I've seen rate the match @ less than **** (absurd IMO). Lesnar-Cena (my current MOTY , pre-rewatching all MOTY contenders) has a VERY mixed reaction due to the nature of the match and ESPECIALLY the finish. I don't rate booking implications into my match ratings, so fuck it.

That leaves Punk-Bryan from OTL as the last candidate. Now, I don't know about you guys but I haven't seen a SINGLE review for this match under **** 1/4. I've seen some give it the full five, and a vast majority give it **** 3/4+ (which I give it at the moment), so that leads me to believe that it's the universal MOTY for 2012, despite only being my personal #2.

Personally, when it comes to MOTY I pick Cena-Lesnar, but I don't think you can go wrong with Punk-Jericho (WM) , Punk-Bryan (OTL), Taker-HHH (WM) , Bryan-Sheamus (ER) or HHH-Lesnar (SS) . It's all subjective. Fuck, we should do a threadwide MOTY list where on DEC 31st we all give out top 10 matches of the year to determine what this thread considers to be the top 10 matches of the year.

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I'm DOWN.

Of course, I'm more focused on my match series project atm. My WWE top ten list is pretty set when I think about it. Only match I had to watch would be Cena/Punker from NOC. Which I will soon.

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I wish Sin Cara didn't suck so much. When he came to WWE (I didn't follow his career prior) I was hoping we could have a series similar to the quality of matches Mysterio & Dragon had in WCW. Even with an older Mysterio he could add more storytelling into the match. Now I think Sin Cara would botch everything up too match and the transitions would be too rough. Oh well.

Sin Cara's best match is his Smackdown 2011 encounter with Christian. Was his first lost too, I believe.

My favorite was the carry job by Danielson on Smackdown post draft. I didn't think the Christian match was too special, but Christian did his best to make it watchable. *1/4. ** for the match vs Danielson. Sin Cara is so bad. Awful to know he has such a piss poor attitude too. I don't know how he got over in Mexico. He's nothing special and EVERYONE there knows how to fly around wearing a mask. Many other talented workers over there more deserving than him.

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I swear early on in the divas match Layla smiles at Eve like if she wanted to do more than wrestle her.

Is Bryan/Kane from Summerslam worth watching?
Yes. Personally, I got tons of enjoyment from their bout. Maybe it's b/c I've been a longtime fan of both, but I felt it was a good match.

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My favorite was the carry job by Danielson on Smackdown post draft. I didn't think the Christian match was too special, but Christian did his best to make it watchable. *1/4. ** for the match vs Danielson. Sin Cara is so bad. Awful to know he has such a piss poor attitude too. I don't know how he got over in Mexico. He's nothing special and EVERYONE there knows how to fly around wearing a mask. Many other talented workers over there more deserving than him.
No surprise his most passable stuff is with ring generals like Bryan and Christian who can turn chicken shit into chicken salad. Mysterio is great at making his opponent look good or using his offense to make the match excitable but he's going to have a big challenge with Cara I think. The spots here and there will look pretty (hopefully) but it's the flow/pacing and transitions need to be on point for the style of match the would put on.


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Brock/Cena is one the best matches WWE has ever put on. Definite MOTY.

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Punk/Bryan is my MOTY for sure. Enjoyed Brock/Cena but Punk/Bryan is more my kinda match.


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No surprise his most passable stuff is with ring generals like Bryan and Christian who can turn chicken shit into chicken salad. Mysterio is great at making his opponent look good or using his offense to make the match excitable but he's going to have a big challenge with Cara I think. The spots here and there will look pretty (hopefully) but it's the flow/pacing and transitions need to be on point for the style of match the would put on.
No doubt. Not a surprise in the slightest.

Toss in the fact that Mysterio isn't exactly a spring chicken anymore. Not saying he can't go anymore, but not quite at the level he once was at. Which is natural. That's life. Only, he would have benefitted being at his best trying to have to help Sin Cara along in a match. Considering if said match does go down. Probably will. Which, I have to say, is pretty bad. Do you thing fans will honestly care? Maybe I'm biased since I loathe Sin Cara, but it isn't exactly like he's very over himself. Would it be heel vs face? face vs face? It feels too much like a bland match up. Not enough to warrant being at WrestleMania. Especially over many more talented workers. Mysterio deserves better too.

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Mysterio could wrestle a mop and make it look good. Sin Cara will be just fine.

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