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Old 12-15-2012, 01:21 PM   #11521 (permalink)
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Orton/Taker series:

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Old 12-15-2012, 01:36 PM   #11522 (permalink)
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Who is this fucking retard and why the fuck does he have a job ?

Seriously, ANYBODY who doesn't put the Punk DVD as the #1 DVD of the year can go die. This year has been BAD for DVDs released in general IMO, and to put anything above the Punk DVD in my view is 100 percent asinine. Yeah, because we REALLY fucking needed to see Koloff-Morton or Mascaras-Foley on a fucking DVD. Terrible, TERRIBLE choice, and I demand a petition to be started for this individual to be booted off planet earth.

Ranking the 3/4 disc sets this year (Haven't seen Raw 1000 or The Attitude Era yet, got them for Christmas, yet to see Unreleased Vol 1 as I'm gonna watch it in a few days I would imagine) :

1. CM Punk : Best in the World
2. Brock Lesnar : Here Comes the Pain (Collector's Edition)
3. The Best of Raw and Smackdown 2011

Those are the only releases that I'd consider "good" ; here are the rest ;

4. Undertaker : The Streak
5. You Think You Know Me ; The Story of Edge
6. Falls Count Anywhere
7. The Epic Journey of Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson

57457357. The Top 50 Finishing Moves in WWE History
57457358. Clash of the Champions
57457358. Rock vs Cena : Once in a Lifetime
-1675283548302635426282545729263. The DVD that shalt not be named.

The Streak and The Edge DVD fall under the same category to me ; DVDs that are AWESOME for people who don't have alot in their collection, but when you own EVERY DAMN MATCH on a DVD you aren't going to like it very much. The Streak is my LEAST favorite Undertaker DVD by far, but it's still number four in terms of being the best DVD of the year. The top three are actually "good" , the middle DVDs CAN be good under the right circumstances, and the bottom DVDs are some of the worst ever made.

This is coming from the perspective of somebody who buys ever new release BTW. WWE Home Video better straighten their fucking act up soon I swear to god. 2011 had like... SIX DVDS that I would put over number 2 and 3.

Not looking forward to the Attitude Era DVD AT ALL. Saw that WWEDVDNEWS posted a question stating "what is better, CM Punk's DVD, or the Attitude Era DVD ?" and I fucking RAGED. Now, I haven't seen the AE DVD but I sure know that it has a shitty doc and NO **** 1/2+ matches on it like Punk's DVD does.
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Who is this fucking retard and why the fuck does he have a job ?

Seriously, ANYBODY who doesn't put the Punk DVD as the #1 DVD of the year can go die. This year has been BAD for DVDs released in general IMO, and to put anything above the Punk DVD in my view is 100 percent asinine. Yeah, because we REALLY fucking needed to see Koloff-Morton or Mascaras-Foley on a fucking DVD. Terrible, TERRIBLE choice, and I demand a petition to be started for this individual to be booted off planet earth.

Ranking the 3/4 disc sets this year (Haven't seen Raw 1000 or The Attitude Era yet, got them for Christmas, yet to see Unreleased Vol 1 as I'm gonna watch it in a few days I would imagine) :

1. CM Punk : Best in the World
2. Brock Lesnar : Here Comes the Pain (Collector's Edition)
3. The Best of Raw and Smackdown 2011

Those are the only releases that I'd consider "good" ; here are the rest ;

4. Undertaker : The Streak
5. You Think You Know Me ; The Story of Edge
6. Falls Count Anywhere
7. The Epic Journey of Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson

57457357. The Top 50 Finishing Moves in WWE History
57457358. Clash of the Champions
57457358. Rock vs Cena : Once in a Lifetime
-1675283548302635426282545729263. The DVD that shalt not be named.

The Streak and The Edge DVD fall under the same category to me ; DVDs that are AWESOME for people who don't have alot in their collection, but when you own EVERY DAMN MATCH on a DVD you aren't going to like it very much. The Streak is my LEAST favorite Undertaker DVD by far, but it's still number four in terms of being the best DVD of the year. The top three are actually "good" , the middle DVDs CAN be good under the right circumstances, and the bottom DVDs are some of the worst ever made.

This is coming from the perspective of somebody who buys ever new release BTW. WWE Home Video better straighten their fucking act up soon I swear to god. 2011 had like... SIX DVDS that I would put over number 2 and 3.

Not looking forward to the Attitude Era DVD AT ALL. Saw that WWEDVDNEWS posted a question stating "what is better, CM Punk's DVD, or the Attitude Era DVD ?" and I fucking RAGED. Now, I haven't seen the AE DVD but I sure know that it has a shitty doc and NO **** 1/2+ matches on it like Punk's DVD does.
Well, this thread escalated quickly lol.

BTW, what matches are on the Punk DVD? I only downloaded the doc part.
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AWESOME MATCHES. GO BUY IT

Honestly though, awesome. Decided to start my MOTY list today, starting off by watching both the HIAC match and the Punk-Jericho WM match back to back to see once and for all what I consider to be the better match

THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME.
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And the last of my Hardy/Umaga series review.

Jeff Hardy vs. Umaga - VII - 11/19/07 - Non-Title Match - Monday Night Raw
Hardy starts off with serveral punches and dodges Umaga's strikes. Umaga hits a headbutt, but Hardy moves for a dive and dropkicks Umaga to the floor. Hardy goes to the floor but eats a chop. Hardy back in the ring with a drop kick to Umaga. He goes for a sunset flip, but he can't get Umaga down. Umaga misses a punch and Hardy hits a forearm before he eats a shoulder block. Hardy hits a couple punches but he eats a back elbow. Umaga with the nerve hold. Jeff tries to fight to his feet, but Umaga wrenches the hold. Hardy tries to elbow out of the hold, but he's thrown onto his back before Umaga reapllies the hold. Hardy dodges a spear in the corner, and
catches Umaga with a DDT. Jeff on the apron signaling for something, but he gets shoved off to the floor. Commercial break. Back to the action is Umaga with a nerve hold on Hardy. Hardy elbows out and goes for a body slam, but Umaga falls into a crossbody for 2. Umaga with a snapmare back into that nervehold. Hardy tries to escape the hold and he ricochets off the ropes only to be caught with a back body drop. Umaga with a leg drop and a knee drop for 2. Umaga with a couple kicks to the chest, and a SPINNING WHEEL KICK for 2. Another cover but still 2. Umaga with a couple punches, and Hardy is on the apron. Jawbreaker on the ropes. Hardy up top. Cross body reversal into the black hold slam! THAT WAS NASTY! 2! Jeff is a ragdoll against Umaga. Umaga hits a springboard butt drop and reapplies the nerve hold. Hardy fights out and eats a big boot to the skull. Umaga goes up top but he misses the flying headbutt. Hardy gets to his feet but he gets socked in the face. Hes pummeled in the corner, and Umaga goes for a stink face. No one home. Jeff connects with a whisper in the wind for 2! Jeff with a forearm and goes for the twist of fate. Shoved off, but he hits a spin kick. Umaga misses a stinger splash and Hardy goes for the Swanton. Umaga moves and connects with a Samoan drop. Samoan Spike attempts, but Hardy
reverses! Twist of Fate! Umaga goes to the floor and eats a dropkick! Suicide dive! Hardy back in the ring. Snitsky runs in for the DQ finish.

This was a great match. I'm going to take the time and tell you that this series is good enough to make a nerve hold an interesting move. They've put it over as one of Hardy's few weaknesses. This match benefitted greatly from seeing all their other bouts, because you could see how it was just like their previous matches but they used more counters because they know each other so well. I would've been happier if Hardy one with the twist of fate, but the finish didn't ruin it for me. ***1/4

Jeff Hardy vs. Umaga - VIII - 1/7/08 - Non Title Steel Cage Match - Monday Night Raw
So Jeff is the IC Champ here, but he's facing Orton at Royal Rumble for the WWE Title. My expectations for this are high. Orton is coming out before the match to scout his challenger at Royal Rumble. Umaga throws Hardy to the mat and hits him with an elbow. Umaga smashes Hardy to the mat with a shoulder block. U,aga goes for a back body drop, but Hardy goes for a sunset flip. Umaga goes for a butt drop but misses, and Hardy hits the sliding drop kick. Hardy hits a jawbreaker but soon eats a high kick to the face. Hardy is in the corner and Umaga went for a stinger splash. Hardy moves and Umaga smashes into the cage. Hardy hits a dropkick for 2. Hardy runs at Umaga, but he gets elevated into the cage. NO! Hardy is on the ropes climbing out. Umaga catches a foot and slams him back into the ring. Commercial break. We come back to find Hardy in a nerve hold, and we missed the black hole slam spot during the break. Hardy starts to get to his feet but Umaga throws him into the ropes. Umaga is caught with a kick to the head, but when he tries to get capitalize he takes a nasty back body drop into the cage. Jeff is getting thrown into the cage again and again by Umaga. Umaga sandwiches Hardy with a running stinger splash. Hardy gets a foot on the ropes. Orton is rampaging at rinside, and he throws 3 charis into the
ring. Umaga smashes Jeff on the bakc with the steel chair. Hardy kicks out, and Umaga is climbing to the top of the cage. He gets crotched and Hardy sets up a chair. Hardy hits an assisted Poetry in Motion to his crotched opponent! Jeff goes for a twist of fate, but Umaga shoves him away and clocks him with a right hand. Hardy is down in the corner and eats some right hands. Umaga goes for the stink face, but Hardy moves. Hardy with a couple fore arms and a spin kick. Umaga in the corner and Hardy throws a chair at his head. Hardy sets up a steel chair and DDTs Umaga onto it! Only 2! Hardy is leaving by the cage door, but Orton slams it shut on his head! Umaga covers Hardy for 2. Umaga is looking for the spike but Hardy reverses into a Twist of Fate! Hardy is climbing to the top of the cage, but Orton is waiting for him. Hardy moonsaults off the cage onto a standing Umaga! That scores the 3!

Good match. Not as many call backs to previous matches though. I liked the finish because Orton slamming Hardy's head into the door caused him to have to find a different way out. Then Orton waiting for him lead to the big finish. They threw in some good spots, but it isn't their best match. I enjoyed the use of the cage, also. ***

Jeff Hardy vs. Umaga - IX - 5/12/08 - Monday Night Raw
This is Hardy's return match. He was cutting a promo about how he wants to become intercontinental championship, but his mike gets cut and Regal comes out. He makes as impromptu match against Umaga. Before Umaga gets into the ring he hits a drop kick followed by a suicide dive. On the floor, Umaga catches him with a punch and tosses him into the security barricade. They get in the ring and the bell rings. Hardy gets whipped into the corner and eats a right hang. Umaga is going up top for the headbutt and he connects! He follows up with a couple punches to Hardy, before lining up for a Stink Face. Umaga misses when Jeff slides out of the way and hits a whisper in the wind for a quick 3. Hardy bails right away and Umaga is pissed.

This barely qualifies as a match since it was less than 3 minutes, but it was a good way to return Jeff and start the mini feud leading up to their ONS match. Not painful to watch or anything but nothing good. *

Jeff Hardy vs. Umaga - X - 5/19/08 - Monday Night Raw
Rematch from the previous episode. Umaga starts off with a series of punches. Hardy foes for a sunset flip, but Umaga reverses into the butt drop. Hardy dodged it and hit a sliding drop kick for a near fall. Hardy goes for a running move, but it is countered into a Samoan drop. Umaga applies the nerve hold. Hardy escapes the hold with a series of punches, but he eats a right hand that takes him down. Umaga puts Hardy up in the tree of woe and hits the running headbutt to the chest. Umaga goes up top for a diving headbutt, but Hardy moves. Hardy looks like he's going to go for Whisper in the Wind, but Umaga catches him by the hair. Hardy goes for a twist of
fate but is shoved away. Hardy goes for a whisper in the wind but Umaga sidesteps and avoids in. Hardy is down in the corner, and Umaga is going for the stink face. Hardy dodges it, and pummels Umaga in the corner. Dropkick to Umaga and a spin kick sending Umaga to the floor. Somersault plancha to the floor! Umaga throws Hardy into the steps but he moves out of the way of a running move sending Umaga into the steel. Hardy goes for a crossbody off the barricade, but he is caught. Umaga hits a black hole slam on the floor! The bell rings and we have a double count out.

Its hard to say I didn't mark out when Umaga prevented the whisper in the wind with the hair pull and the black hole slam on the floor, but the finish definitely took away from the match. Still a good TV match, and it makes sense leading into their ONS match. **3/4

Jeff Hardy vs. Umaga - XI - 6/1/08 - Falls Count Anywhere - One Night Stand 2008
I was here to see this match live, and I've probably only seen it once since then. I think seeing the 10 previous matches will add a lot to the match. The match starts with Hardy running into a back elbow. Umaga whips Hardy into the corner hard and Jeff collapses. Umaga tosses him into the opposite corner, and he reverses into a Whisper in the Wind for 2! Hardy goes up top for a crossbody, but Umaga catches him with a black hole slam for 2! Umaga runs at Hardy and gets sent to the floor. Hardy leaps over the top with a suicide dive for a 2 on the floor! Umaga tosses Jeff into the barricade, and he throws him onto the unprotected concrete. Umaga throws a few chairs onto him and tosses him into a wall. Umaga hits a head butt to Hardy, but he gets a traffic thing thrown to his head. Umaga immediately comes back with a big boot. Umaga goes for a stink face against a part of the set, but Hardy moves and grabs a fire extinguisher. Hardy sprays Umaga with the fire extinguisher multiple times and they head to the backstage area. Umaga with a punch to the throat and throws him into a wall. He misses a chair shot and Hardy runs up some stairs. Hardy slides down the rail for a clothesline into a pin on the stairs for 2! Hardy collapses at the top of the stairs, and Umaga tosses him into a trashcan for a 2! Umaga punches Jeff in the head, and they are going to the parking lot. Umaga gets thrown into a wooden case and a vehicle for 2! Umaga throws Jeff against a WWE truck, and he continues until Hardy slams Umaga into the truck. He chokes Umaga with a rope and gets a 2. Hardy elbows at Umaga and sends him into the truck. Jeff is climbing up a WWE truck and Umaga follows him. Umaga gets kicked off the truck and Hardy does a swanton off the truck. You can't see anything for a few seconds and Jeff is on top of Umaga for the 3.

I didn't like the fact that they covered up the finish a bit, and that they blew off some big moves early in the match. I liked the innovative clothesline, but this wasn't their best match. Still a good end to a good on and off battle. ***

Very good series to watch and its great to see how the series develops over the span of the 11 matches. Quick ratings.

I~**1/2
II~**
III~**3/4
IV~**1/4
V~***1/2
VI~***
VII~***1/4
VIII~***
IX~*
X~**3/4
XI~***

Not a single bad match and 3 TV matches that are ***+ with 2 PPV ***+.
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Punk's DVD is DVDOTY definitely. Not sure what I would have #2. The COTC DVD is also pretty good, as is the ECW Unreleased set. Those are probably my top 3. Rock #4 and Edge at #5.


When you put out a 3 disc set and its all matches you have to allow for repeats and clunkers. Clash DVD was damn good. I had fun watching a lot of that stuff over the 3 days it took me to go through it. Same can be said for the ECW DVD. You probably could have put together better sets but that's not to say those are also good.


I haven't seen Lesnar or Attitude Era sets, may cop those. the nWo set isn't good at all and its probably the worst set they put out in a long time. Haven't seen Falls Count Anywhere either and I'm in no rush to see it.


So here's my top:
#1-CM Punk
#2-ECW Unreleased
#3-COTC
#4-The Rock
#5-Edge

I had fun with the sets this year. The nWo set is by far the most disappointing and I wish I hadn't paid full price for it but hey, they can't all be gems.
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Hey, what do you guys think about their SD match? The match was ok but holy shit that casket magic trick was pretty damn laughable. I laughed my ass off hard with that one.
WM21 - ****1/4
SS - ****1/4
SD (16/9/05) - ****
NM - ****
ARM - ****1/2

Absolutely awesome series.


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Taker/Orton:

WM21- ****1/4
SS- ****
SD (9/16/2005)- ****
NM- ****
Armageddon- ****1/4
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Wrestlemania - ****
Summerslam- ***3/4
Smackdown- ***3/4
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So what are you guys getting for Christmas in terms of DVDs?

For me:
CM Punk: BITW
WM28
Greatest Steel Cage Matches
Both Shawn Michaels three disc sets
Falls Count Anywhere
Best of RAW and Smackdown 2011
Roddy Piper: Born to Controversy
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