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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

As good as Ziggler is, he can't touch HBK, in the 90s or 2000s. If the ladder match is going to be good at all, it's going to be because Ziggler bumps his ass off.


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I haven't seen it in a good while but I remember Kofi/Orton match at TLC 2009 being good and not worked like his other standard matched we get every week these days. The finish was tight too.

Speaking of Orton & December PPVs, his match with Batista at Armageddon 08 was solid.

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That doesn't shock me at all. It also wouldn't shock me if we've seen Del Rio vs Santino or Ryder in 100x matches that go under 4 minutes each. Swear to god it's almost every Raw.
Garbage. I was ranting back in April for crying out loud. It's December and I'm stuck saying the same crap.

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Holy shit where did all the Kingston fans go? Could sworn when I first signed up people were bitchign about how WWE never continued his push. I never used to like Kingston but I like him now. He's fun and brings a lot of energy. Plus, his matches are always good. Not great but a Kingston match can never bore me.

The problem with Kofi is, he's too cartoony. He needs a mean side, you know? They had him to this big brawl with The Miz some time ago and nothing ever became of it.
I liked his push at the time. The beatdown on Orton in MSG remains awesome. However I've re-watched some matches from him back then and he's still pretty bad. Lost interest in the guy following that program in 2010. I get very bored watching his matches nowadays.

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As good as Ziggler is, he can't touch HBK, in the 90s or 2000s. If the ladder match is going to be good at all, it's going to be because Ziggler bumps his ass off.
Don't think anyone was comparing. Poster only said he reminds him of Shawn with the over-the-top bumping.

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Garbage. I was ranting back in April for crying out loud. It's December and I'm stuck saying the same crap.



I liked his push at the time. The beatdown on Orton in MSG remains awesome. However I've re-watched some matches from him back then and he's still pretty bad. Lost interest in the guy following that program in 2010. I get very bored watching his matches nowadays.



Don't think anyone was comparing. Poster only said he reminds him of Shawn with the over-the-top bumping.
I know. But I don't think he is as good at bumping.

But I could see some similarities: Ahleticism, body-type, "show stealer" nickname, and Dolph's attempt to bump. So, point taken.


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I haven't watched Orton/Batista in ages but I don't remember liking it much. I'll probably give it another shot though.



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I know. But I don't think he is as good at bumping.

But I could see some similarities: Ahleticism, body-type, "show stealer" nickname, and Dolph's attempt to bump. So, point taken.
I love his bumping. It's outlandish and awesome.

Dolph or Shawn. I'm a fan either way.

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I haven't watched Orton/Batista in ages but I don't remember liking it much. I'll probably give it another shot though.
I remember thinking it was solid. Don't own the PPV to be sure. I was mad about the Batista win. The next night on RAW Orton punted Batista and he was out till the RAW following WrestleMania. So it all worked out.

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This might go against the grain as far as standards go in here but I love to watch an entertaining spotfest. Whether it's a TLC match, a match with Shawn or Dolph bumping around the ring, Kurt Angle bringing the intensity, or cruiserweights outdoing each other going in move for move. Every match doesn't have to be wrapped in psychology or tell a massive, layered, story for it to be super fun and dare I say great. I love my storytelling matches as you can tell from my past reviews but I can love TLC II as much as Regal/Benoit in Japan.


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I haven't seen it in a good while but I remember Kofi/Orton match at TLC 2009 being good and not worked like his other standard matched we get every week these days. The finish was tight too.

Speaking of Orton & December PPVs, his match with Batista at Armageddon 08 was solid.
I admit that despite being a huge Orton mark, I didn't like that match very much at all. Just found it a bit boring and slow. It sucks that Batista & Orton never put on the classic they should be capable of in a singles match. My favorite match of theirs is the #1 Contender match from 10 January 2005 episode of Raw.

And to Hailsabin, I'm unfortunate to say that the SD episode with that goofy JBL promo is in mpeg so I have to convert it before I can cut out the wanted part in Sony Vegas and upload it. Hopefully I can get it done for tomorrow.

Since Orton & December PPVs were brought up, I'm gonna rate all his December PPV matches just for the hell of it.

vs RVD (ARM 03) - ***1/2
vs Taker (ARM 05) - ****1/2
vs Jericho (ARM 07) - ***1/4
vs Batista (ARM 08) - **3/4
vs Kingston (TLC 09) - (Need to watch it first)
vs The Miz (TLC 10) - **1/4
vs Barrett (TLC 11) - **1/2

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I admit that despite being a huge Orton mark, I didn't like that match very much at all. Just found it a bit boring and slow. It sucks that Batista & Orton never put on the classic they should be capable of in a singles match. My favorite match of theirs is the #1 Contender match from 10 January 2005 episode of Raw.
Admittedly the match is not great but I think it can be nice to look at even some of the lesser PPV matches that are not talked about as much. Your rating for it is about right too. It did seem like they were taking their time out there, probably trying to work the crowd up throughout the match. The finish is pretty cool.


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This might go against the grain as far as standards go in here but I love to watch an entertaining spotfest. Whether it's a TLC match, a match with Shawn or Dolph bumping around the ring, Kurt Angle bringing the intensity, or cruiserweights outdoing each other going in move for move. Every match doesn't have to be wrapped in psychology or tell a massive, layered, story for it to be super fun and dare I say great. I love my storytelling matches as you can tell from my past reviews but I can love TLC II as much as Regal/Benoit in Japan.
As do I. Especially if that's exactly what the match is meant for.

@ posting the Orton/Batista match. I might have the chance to view it tonight. Got other things on my plate, but I'll get around to it this week.

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I admit that despite being a huge Orton mark, I didn't like that match very much at all. Just found it a bit boring and slow. It sucks that Batista & Orton never put on the classic they should be capable of in a singles match. My favorite match of theirs is the #1 Contender match from 10 January 2005 episode of Raw.

And to Hailsabin, I'm unfortunate to say that the SD episode with that goofy JBL promo is in mpeg so I have to convert it before I can cut out the wanted part in Sony Vegas and upload it. Hopefully I can get it done for tomorrow.

Since Orton & December PPVs were brought up, I'm gonna rate all his December PPV matches just for the hell of it.

vs RVD (ARM 03) - ***1/2
vs Taker (ARM 05) - ****1/2
vs Jericho (ARM 07) - ***1/4
vs Batista (ARM 08) - **3/4
vs Kingston (TLC 09) - (Need to watch it first)
vs The Miz (TLC 10) - **1/4
vs Barrett (TLC 11) - **1/2
Boourns. Don't go through any trouble if it causes you some. I'll appreciate the effort altogether.

I guess I'm the only gut who likes the Tables match vs Miz? *** in my book.

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