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Old 12-14-2012, 03:26 PM   #11401 (permalink)
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:29 PM   #11402 (permalink)
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Awesome. Can't see why they didn't show up before when I searched though. Everyone watch those please.
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Sheamus v Big Show - Hell in a Cell '12
Been wanting to see this for a while and figured now was as good a time as any ahead of the PPV this weekend. Everyone on here has been pimping it as a great big man match. Sometimes that can work against a match for me because I went into it with way higher expectations than I ever would have. Fortunately it didn't disappoint, not at all. Sheamus is fucking fantastic working from the bottom in this. The first half of the match is slow, but it's not bad slow. Every brief flurry of offense Sheamus musters is full of intensity and really gets across how hard he's having to work to get anything in and just how dominant Big Show can be. The striking is good from both guys and Show hits some nifty stuff to keep things interesting. Just when I was starting to lose a bit of interest and think to myself 'yeah they need to pick up the pace soon' they did just that. From thereon in it's pure awesomeness. White Noise on Show is always going to be impressive. Sheamus kicking out of the first KO punch legitimately shocked me and the Brogue Kick was another great nearfall. And OMFG the finish. Great match. Great performance from Sheamus in particular. Can't think of a better Big Show match other than last man standing v Taker. This is comfortably in my top 10 for the year.
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I still haven't seen that. I've heard nothing but good things. I'll try searching for it now.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:11 PM   #11405 (permalink)
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It's on dailymotion.
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Yeah its one of the finest matches of the year, which says a lot because the best matches this year have been truly special. The sort of match which demonstrates what Show brings to the table as a worker. Sometimes his slow and methodical style can be divisive but it really complimented Sheamus' underdog performance perfectly. Everytime Sheamus would get a bit of offence he'd be tossed out of the ring or beaten down and would have to find another way to mount a comeback. Build throughout the middle into the finishing stretch with the pace quickening as Sheamus begins to find an in-road was super and the finishing stretch with both finishers being kicked out of was majestic, the 1st KO punch especially as the Brogue kick kickout was sort of a giveaway afterwards. Finish as you mentioned is terrific and timed to absolute perfection.

Makes me think how good Sheamus vs Henry could be if Henry is given a renewed push when he hopefully comes back. I wouldn't him being a badass babyface for a while but I'm hoping he gets a heel run again in the near future because he's too damn good as the monster heel for a good/great babyface to work off of.

Personally speaking I'd probably have it top 5 for the year. Only Lesnar/Cena stands out as a match I'd certainly rank ahead of it. Punk/Bryan OTL and Bryan/Sheamus ER are two matches I could definitely see a case for as being better than Show/Sheamus, but they're very different matches and I'd have to rewatch all 3 to be sure. Punk/Henry 4/2 is an excellent match based on an almost similar formula, only Show/Sheamus has a definitive end even if I'm a big fan of how they worked a non decisive finish in a creative and smart way instead of using a cheap tactic. Punk/Cena NOC again I could see a case for, especially because its such a great take on the MITB match between them with the roles reversed and the story calling for Punk to control the match and find a way to put away Cena. On first watch I think I took to Sheamus/Show a bit more, especially for how they worked the finishing stretch.

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Punk/Henry earlier in the year was great too but this was on another level. I don't know if there's been a better finishing stretch in a match this year. Don't think so.
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Henry and Sheamus had at least two really good matches in 2011.
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Personally speaking I'd probably have it top 5 for the year. Only Lesnar/Cena stands out as a match I'd certainly rank ahead of it. Punk/Bryan OTL and Bryan/Sheamus ER are two matches I could definitely see a case for as being better than Show/Sheamus, but they're very different matches and I'd have to rewatch all 3 to be sure. Punk/Henry 4/2 is an excellent match based on an almost similar formula, only Show/Sheamus has a definitive end even if I'm a big fan of how they worked a non decisive finish in a creative and smart way instead of using a cheap tactic. Punk/Cena NOC again I could see a case for, especially because its such a great take on the MITB match between them with the roles reversed and the story calling for Punk to control the match and find a way to put away Cena. On first watch I think I took to Sheamus/Show a bit more, especially for how they worked the finishing stretch.
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Yeah I can definitely see a case for Show/Sheamus as a complete match being better, though something about Punk/Henry made me think of it as truly special when I first saw it. I'll maintain that the finish is a plus for the match and a great payoff to the story and Punk comeback, rather than a detriment. But I'll concede the way Show/Sheamus payed off their story with the finishing stretch was truly incredible.

Aye I recall their matches in 2011 being very good, but unless my memory is bad they didn't really get a lot of time. I enjoyed the matches for the length they were, especially as they were more brawl orientated which is exactly what I'd want from Sheamus and Henry. But I'd love to see them get a proper amount of time to really work a match as opposed to shorter matches which feel more angle driven than actual matches (even if they were really really good).

Forgot Regal/Ambrose when bringing up essential 2012 viewing. Not as good as Show/Sheamus, but its a majestic way to cap off a truly amazing feud which lasted close to a year. Regals' selling is beautiful and he's as evil and sadistic in the chain wrestling as I've seen. Ambrose to his credit really steps up on his end and delivers a truly fantastic heel performance and the workover of Regals' ear is truly disgusting and surreal to see in a WWE setting.

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Not a fan personally speaking. I appreciate the symbolism and way it played off of 4 years of Wrestlemania matches and moments, but personally speaking I thought it went past the balance of emotive WWE storytelling and into a more melodramatic and for lack of a better word 'cheesy' atmosphere. I have no doubt it was a truly incredible spectacle live in person, but I just don't think they possess that dynamic character contrast and chemistry that makes Taker/HBK brilliant and a better example of WWE Main Event Storytelling done right.

I didn't think it was awful, but I'm definitely in the camp who isn't a fan. Not going to pretend I don't see why its incredibly popular though. Matches like that however are always going to be polarising. You either get caught up in the emotion and symbolism or you find it unbearable and over the top. I just happen to fall into the latter side.

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