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Old 12-14-2012, 11:09 AM   #11371 (permalink)
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Damn, I think the only one of those I've seen is the Armageddon fourway, which, watching it isolated, seems really out of place. I had no idea this series was that good. I'll definitely be going back and viewing the series in chronological order, because it sounds like it was a blast.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:15 AM   #11372 (permalink)
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http://www.wrestlingforum.com/genera...l#post12358467

Links to all the matches are there. No Mercy and Armageddon are on Dailymotion as well separately.

It certainly was mate. Shorter matches generally but they kept enough structure and had a great babyface/heel dynamic that not getting 15 minutes plus regularly didn't hurt them.

I'd also recommend the Eddie/Tajiri vs Team Angle series from May-July 2003. They have 3 great TV matches (5/22 being incredible) and a Ladder match at Judgement Day. Story is that as we get closer to Angle's return to Smackdown (he was still assumed to be a heel), Team Angle grow obsessed with regaining the tag titles by the time he returns to impress him. Last match IIRC is the week before Angle's scheduled return. Eddie is amazing, Tajiri isn't far behind and the tag structure allows Haas & Benjamin to flourish in ways they might not be able to in singles matches.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:18 AM   #11373 (permalink)
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Thanks for the links. I haven't seen the Eddie/Tajiri vs WGTT matches either. I wasn't watching as frequently between 2000-2003. Bits and pieces here and there, but not nearly as much as I was in the 90s and 2004-on. Sounds like I missed some good stuff, particularly on SD.
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People obsess over the Angle/Benoit vs Edge/Mysterio matches, but personally I prefer Booker/Goldust vs Jericho/Christian, Eddie/Tajiri vs Team Angle & MNM vs The Hardyz as far as a series of tag matches go about. Sadly it seems WWE removed the links from youtube, as only 5/29 Smackdown and Judgement Day 2003 Ladder Match are available from the series. I have no idea if Cal or anyone else handy with footage can track the other two matches down, since I watched them a few months back on youtube but it appears WWE has removed a mass of matches/promos in the past month.
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Batista v Triple H - Backlash '05
Couldn't remember much from this match and heard Cal say it was good so decided to give it a watch. It is good. Not great or anything but it's fundamentally sound and features a solid performance from HHH. The Pedigree is a big story in the match so they tease it early and often. Hunter is unable to hit it so he targets Batista's back with a focused workover. Spinebuster into the barricade was a nice spot to set up the control segment. Unfortunately working FIP was never Batista's forte so it's just a good showing of HHH working from the top rather than something truly engrossing. Batista's long-term selling isn't the best either, neither are his comebacks, but considering how green he was at the time it's a perfectly fine main event title match. Batista's high elevation backdrops are just about the best thing he does in this. Eventually Trips hits the Pedigree and has Batista beat but the ref is out of it. It's not a big dramatic moment or anything but at least it keeps that element of the feud alive for the next match. Decent finish I suppose.
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Those bastards. I honestly need to start a list of stuff to watch. It's hard for me to track stuff down, though, and then actually find the time to sit and watch everything once I do.

What are your thoughts on this weekend's PPV? You optimistic about any of the matches? Personally, I think the three main events (Show/Sheamus, Cena/Ziggler, TLC 6-man) will deliver. Rest of the show (Mexicans/Scholars, Cesaro uppercutting the shit out of Truth, etc) will be fun, but nothing special.

edit - wow I remember absolutely nothing about that Backlash match other than the finish w/Batista Bomb out of the corner.
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6 man TLC has my interest. Bryan is great and underrated in a more violent environment, Ambrose is a great character worker and should hopefully shine in a WWE setting where he'll rely more on mannerisms and selling than excessive brutality, Rollins has potential but he should be a fun bumper and hopefully will match up well with Bryan, they had great chemistry in ROH anyway. Hoping they'll work it like a pseudo 80s territory brawl with a frantic pace and hate-filled brawling, but with WWE you always expect them to be more restrained and relient on the weapons.

Ziggler/Cena..eh ladder matches generally don't excite me beyond a lot of impressive bumps. Sheamus/Morrison and Benoit/Jericho are the standout exceptions. If they work something closer to that then there's a chance I'll really dig it. It does have a nice dynamic as well with Ziggler needing the win and the chronic fear that Cena will just win the match and piss off numerous fans.

Sheamus/Show should be worked like their previous matches, with smart use of the chairs stip. If they make the chair stip the entire focus of the match it could make it the lesser match in the series, but I have faith.

Tables matches are a gimmick I hate. Especially when you have numerous teases with nothing happening. I fully believe it should have been reserved for the Dudleys alone and probably done in an elimination style. Can't recall ever seeing a good tables match and it doesn't really play to Mysterio's strengths.

I'll try and catch the Cesaro match, though Truth sucks horribly and they haven't really given anyone a reason to care about the feud outside of one promo on Smakdown. Cesaro should be great but Truth is piss poor at engaging a crowd and I can't recall him ever selling that well. Hopefully Cesaro beats him and works a better babyface worker who can build a match and sell very well soon.
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I've never done this, but I'm going to project my star ratings for this weekend's TLC PPV.

Wade Barrett vs Kofi Kingston : **

Neither man have shown me that they can consistently be great workers, especially Barrett. Expect this to be a match with a ton of leaping around by Kofi and alot of bland offense by Barrett. Not expecting anything from this TBH.

Antonio Cesaro vs R-Truth : ** 1/4

Expecting another Cesaro showcase here. Just Cesaro beating the shit out of Truth and hitting the neutralizer for the win. R-Truth doesn't get in too much here and rightfully so (BECAUSE HE IS GARBAGE)

Tables Match ; Luchadors vs Rhodes Scholars : ** 3/4

Tables matches are never great. I don't think I've ever seen a "great" tables match in my entire life, but tbh this one has the potential to be the best tables match ever due to the agility in this match. Sin Cara could definitely fuck this one up though, so don't be surprised if this is like **.

Ladder Match ; John Cena vs Dolph Ziggler : *** 1/4

I think these two will put on a pretty good match, but nothing that's OMGSOAWESOMEZ. I don't think Cena will wrestle a pure ladder match very good, but I believe that Ziggler will bump around and fall off enough ladders to make this entertaining. There certainly is enough drama here to sustain however.

TLC Match ; The Shield vs Team Hell No & Ryback : *** 1/4

Yeah, so this will be Ryback's best match ever. I believe that this match will be great because it allows Ryback to just destroy people while masking his deficiencies as a wrestler. Bryan , Kane, Ambrose and Rollins will always be good, and with a ton of weapons thrown in it should be super fun.

Chairs Match ; Big Show vs Sheamus : *** 3/4

Yeah, I'm expecting this to fucking RULE. This match should be the main event, and if they put Rybotch as the main event it will be a slap in the face and reassurance that the WHC is fucking WORTHLESS. Two big stiff guys nailing each other with chairs? FUCK YEAH.

Expecting a decent show, nothing special. FUN.
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Cena/Ziggler could be great. Expect Dolph to take some ridiculous bumps and I don't know, I just think it could be different to the typical WWE spotfest ladder match.
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Ladder Match ; John Cena vs Dolph Ziggler : *** 1/4

I think these two will put on a pretty good match, but nothing that's OMGSOAWESOMEZ. I don't think Cena will wrestle a pure ladder match very good, but I believe that Ziggler will bump around and fall off enough ladders to make this entertaining. There certainly is enough drama here to sustain however.
In a way that's what I'm hoping for. Not a fan of the typical WWE ladder match filled with high spots. Cena's involvement could make it more to my taste.
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