[Obfuscation]

Fan meaning "him". I can't speak for every fan nor will I ever try.

[The Lady Killer]

Yeah, didn't care for it at all. To be honest, I haven't cared for an Orton storyline since 2004.

edit I know, Cody. I think Starbuck and I were under the impression KOK was referring to general fan interest, making his assumption of Punk > HHH/HBK/Cena a little puzzling. If it is in fact personal preference, then there's nothing to say.

[The Cynical Miracle]

Has there been any other great story lines in the PG era other than Jericho V HBK, Taker V HBK and the Summer of Punk (before it became the autumn of HHH and Nash)?

[CHRISTINA HENDRICKS]

BALLOONS

[Obfuscation]

I'd only probably be able to compare Punk if I threw in his indie career. Which, wouldn't make much of a difference since the majority of wrestling fans would claim WWE accomplishments > majority of indie ones.

He's still my favorite either way.

[The Lady Killer]

I thought HHH/Taker this year was done really well. Jericho/Punk felt too forced. I wasn't that into it. Rock/Cena was about 11.5 months too long. Shield debut is progressing likely. Hopefully they don't fuck that up. Brock's return was great until he lost his first match.

[Starbuck]

For sure. If I thought he meant his own personal preference I wouldn't have brought it up in the first place lol.

Orton/Trips/McMahons was great and showed that WWE can do edgy within the confines of PG. Was it over the top? Of course but I still enjoyed the hell out of it as a feud. Every week they were doing more crazy shit. Was great. I'm talking purely in terms of storyline here. Obviously the matches left a lot to be desired. I definitely have it ranked as one of the top storylines of the PG era if I' being honest. We don't really see anything like that anymore and Orton's character portrayal was top notch all the way. One of my favourite heel characters ever.

[Choke2Death]

Originally Posted by The Cynical Miracle

Does anyone else agree that the Orton V McMahon family feud is one of the most overrated and stupid story lines in the PG era.

So Orton punts Vince. The segment had great heat and all was fine. Then they have the 40 year old, podgy non wrestler Shane McMahon single handidly beat up all of Legacy the next Raw making them all look like geeks, totally making the storyline non believable and taking away the heat Orton had on him.

Then theres other stupid shit like HHH breaking into Ortons home and basically getting his revenge, which cripples the hype of seeing HHH finally getting his hands on Orton at WM because, well, he already made him pay.

Then theres other cartoon shit like HHH chasing Orton around the arena with a big hammer which made it look like some goofy Loony Tunes shit and not the heated rivalry they were going for.

And theres the awful WM main event match they had with HHH getting revenge.... again while handicapping what could of been the biggest mega heel in Raw history.

Silly storyline is silly.

They made a lot of stupid decisions to say the least. As you pointed out, Orton being beat at WM (thus killing his chance of becoming a bigger star and mega heel) as well as Shane being made to look so dominant with the stupid air punching are just some of the problems. But I think it was great otherwise. The involvement of Stephanie also made it feel a lot more intense and heated as did the home invasion which I find to be one of the funniest things ever. And let's be honest, HHH didn't really make Orton "pay" in that segment since police came and took him almost as soon as he was able to start his beatdown on Orton.

And even though their WM match was underwhelming, I'm satisfied with it because Orton got his well deserved accomplishment of closing a Wrestlemania show.

[Obfuscation]

Orton/Triple H beatdown in the house is still one of the greatest moments I've seen

[The Lady Killer]

Only part of that storyline I enjoyed was Orton owning Steph then kissing her in front of HHH