Ben Wyatt's Low Cal Calzone Zone
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Golfing with Stephen Hawking, he lied about his handicap. Didn't need a golf cart though, I just sat in his lap.
Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
Personally I don't see why you'd need to consider drawing and 'impact' when judging if wrestler A is the greatest of all time. I mean, I can appreciate its value when discussing 'the biggest/most successful wrestler' in the history of the business and there will always be those who remain convinced that being a significant draw extends into making a wrestler 'great' but to me all I consider is in ring ability & the ability to play a character (mannerisms, promos, using their charisma to magnify the character and their feuds) when considering whether someone is the 'greatest/best' wrestler of all time.
My top 10 from America would probably consist of Flair, Lawler, Funk, Hansen, Windham, Arn, Eddie, Mysterio, Steamboat & Bill Dundee. All these wrestlers are incredible talents for a variety of reasons. They're excellent in the ring, ranging from being great expressive performers and working a character like no other to being able to sell, build matches, control a crowd and inject their characters' personality into sequences to build a story and add meaning to a match. Now aside from Mysterio & Steamboat, I'd also call the rest great promo men. Some of them were purely passionate, some were able to capture a screen with their charisma and make you pay attention to them and others were just naturally gifted at perfecting a character and being a great interview. I really don't care whether they drew well or sold out arenas in their prime, its admittedly nice to know Flair and his work made a big impact nationwide in his prime and got over immensely, but to me his performances would still attain that quality whether he was wrestling in front of 000s or crowds of mid hundreds.
Don't get me wrong, drawing and impact on the profession goes a long way in ranking certain wrestlers on a level above that of their peers and certainly can be used to accurately call certain wrestlers as legends/icons of the industry. But that doesn't make them a naturally talented worker, a naturally talented performer able to take any angle/character and perfect it to get over rather than fail miserably. Eddie never drew or had the legacy to millions that someone like Hulk Hogan did, but I'd certainly have him in any 'GOAT discussion' simply because as an all round wrestling talent he was incredible. Hogan certainly belongs in any discussion about legends/icons/who was the most successful wrestler in history, but I've never understood why that extends into any discussion about him being a better talent than say, Tully Blanchard.