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Old 12-12-2012, 10:35 PM   #11111 (permalink)
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Because I don't see why I'd put them under Henry. Kofi matches I'd generally prefer to Henry matches, and Truth just always strikes me as average, but it's tough to rate him. Santino's the toughest to rate because his gimmick restricts him immensely. I think I may have jumped the gun a bit on Santino and Truth, but Henry strikes me as average-below average, which puts him at a 5 on my scale. He's had some good-great matches in the last year though with Punk, Orton, and Show... so maybe I should give it some more thought. Wouldn't put him above Kofi though. Keep in mind, I'll probably change a lot of these numbers as time goes on, but generally if they're within a point of each other, I could probably swap them at some point.
I question it since they're 3 of the poorest workers on the WWE roster. Easily top 10 granted I'd work them into the top 5. Henry is a BOSS and a good worker to boot. Even prior to the 2011 dominance he showed his ability.


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I want everybody'z STARZ for HHH-HBK SS 02. Just to compare to my own (which I shall not reveal until this whole project is done ). Had it at ***** on my very first watch... DO I FIND IT OVERRATED NOW ? CAN IT SUSTAIN ? IS IT A GREAT, BUT NOT ALL TIME CLASSIC MATCH ?

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I don't own it so I need to rewatch for a final set rating. I think I was at ****1/2 last time. It's pretty damn stellar.

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Well, they all worked with eachother for years and got to see everything up close. They know more wrestling then we will ever forget. If all of them come to the same conclusion, I think it's their honest opinion.

I personally think Flair is the greatest ever. Shawn does, as well. But after Flair, HBK is up there somewhere. So, I don't know, I wouldn't say they are royally overrating him. Just my opinion.
I never put Shawn over to that extent. Despite the fact I think he has the most 5 star matches I've seen from WWF/WWE. I guess it ends up with me being more of a fan while he was in The Rockers than collectively as a singles worker. Plus, I'd rank underrated guys like a Dave Finlay over him. I guess that's where my point really comes from by the "royally overrated" claim.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:37 PM   #11112 (permalink)
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Having a little trouble finding Taker/Lesnar No Mercy 2002. Youtube link I had from a while ago had it removed, and having trouble finding it elsewhere. #HALP
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I question it since they're 3 of the poorest workers on the WWE roster. Easily top 10 granted I'd work them into the top 5. Henry is a BOSS and a good worker to boot. Even prior to the 2011 dominance he showed his ability.




I don't own it so I need to rewatch for a final set rating. I think I was at ****1/2 last time. It's pretty damn stellar.



I never put Shawn over to that extent. Despite the fact I think he has the most 5 star matches I've seen from WWF/WWE. I guess it ends up with me being more of a fan while he was in The Rockers than collectively as a singles worker. Plus, I'd rank underrated guys like a Dave Finlay over him. I guess that's where my point really comes from by the "royally overrated" claim.
His Rockers days? He himself would tell you, he was nowhere near the worker in the Rockers that he would be later in his career. He was a 20 year old kid in a tag team. He didn't really become an educated worker until around late '94 and early '95. That's when he took his matches to the next level. I think those guys in the company rate him that high for a specific reason. He just really was that good.

And what Clique said. Well said.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:45 PM   #11114 (permalink)
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Nah. I'm sticking with Rockers days. Got the most enjoyment from him then. Tons of legit performances. Brilliant work on a nightly basis with Marty.
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Nah. I'm sticking with Rockers days. Got the most enjoyment from him then. Tons of legit performances. Brilliant work on a nightly basis with Marty.
There were some good matches with the Brainbusters and Hart Foundation. But Shawn Michaels in the Rockers wasn't capable of matches like HIAC '97 vs 'Taker, or WM25 vs Taker, SS 02 vs Hunter, 97 Mind Games vs Foley, etc. Hell, not even 1992 HBK was capable of those matches, nevermind Rockers Shawn. Two completely different workers. I'll take the post Rockers Shawn, not even really much of a comparison.
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Obviously my opinion differs.
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Have 8/10 HHH-HBK matches in perfect WWE-Produced DVD quality , that's why I chose this series over any other one, gave me a chance to go through my collection.

HHH-HBK from ARM 02 is up next.. I've ALWAYS been one of the biggest advocates and defenders of that match , and always had a soft spot in my heart for it, giving it *** 3/4 while others have it @ 1/2*-*** . I just love how absolutely batshit fucking insane that match is from start to finish
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Obviously my opinion differs.
That's cool. But does anyone honestly think Shawn Michaels in 1988 is capable of the performances he put on later in the 90s and 2000s? He was a kid who was receiving instruction at times from Arn & Tully, as all 3 of them have said in DVDs, even Shawn. He was still learning to a degree then.
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Does batshit insane mean dreadfully dull?

I kid, I kid. But the match sucks, imho.
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OH.... How I love this Triple H King of Kings DVD. You could tell he wanted to have both a HBK and a Flair match on there (he probably instructed it) , so he got two matches that weren't on any other sets. It's like a "HISTORY OF HHH" DVD highlighting the different stages of his career.

The little sit-down segment before the match is great. HHH calls Shawn the greatest ever, before coming out and telling us how awesome the next match is and how "it's pure emotion, what our business is all about" ... HIS QUOTE NOT MINE :hhh
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