[The Beast Incarnate]

You know what? Throw the list out and pretend I didn't say anything.

This was completely uncharacteristic of me to do something like that ; rank individuals off the top of my head without going in depth and doing a TON of research into this like I do with my other projects. This is the type of thing that should take a person WEEKS or MONTHS to do, not an hour , so disregard it PLZ. To say "this guy is better than that guy" is okay, but to place numbers on individuals without doing the hard research and breaking down the film is ridiculous.

I still stand on my ideas that Flair is the GOAT by far, Punk can be top 5 all time if his career is consistent enough for the next 2-4 years, Shawn Michaels is one of the best big match performers ever but his consistency is shaky, and that Foley and Flair are two of the best on the mic ever. Disregard the list, it was a stupid idea....

YEAHHH.... SOOO ANYWAYS.... I'm watching HHH-HBK from SS 02 for my project. Not gonna say what I'm giving it, but it seems to be one of the most polarizing matches ever with multiple ratings across the board ranging from ** 1/2 to *****. Thoughts on the match as a whole ?

[Obfuscation]

Originally Posted by ShowStopper '97

Mick Foley and HBK an "8" in the ring? SMFH. Just no. People in the business would absolutely, positively laugh out loud at the notion.

Triple H, Taker, and Punk an "8.25."?

No, just no. HBK was having decent to good singles matches from 1992-1995 when Taker was still no selling and playing "dead."

People "in the business" royally overrate HBK too. Not that doesn't matter.

Sandrone, why do you have Santino, Kofi, & R-Truth's ring work over Mark Henry's?

[ShowStopper '97]

Originally Posted by Stocking Filled w/HAYLEY JOY~!

People "in the business" royally overrate HBK too. Not that doesn't matter.

Sandrone, why do you have Santino, Kofi, & R-Truth's ring work over Mark Henry's?

Like who? And how did they over-rate him?

[shawnmichaelsisgod]

Originally Posted by Stocking Filled w/HAYLEY JOY~!

"Pro wrestling will never be respected. No matter how many teeth I loose, no matter how many ears I loose, or NO MATTER HOW MANY BRAIN CELLS HAVE TO DIE!"

THIS is my favourite line from my favourite promo of all time, as you said gives me chills everytime I hear it. Foley GOAT of the mic.

[Obfuscation]

JR, Triple H, Pat Patterson, etc.

Calling him the greatest ever. That's how.

[Gamblor]

Originally Posted by Stocking Filled w/HAYLEY JOY~!

People "in the business" royally overrate HBK too. Not that doesn't matter.

Sandrone, why do you have Santino, Kofi, & R-Truth's ring work over Mark Henry's?

Because I don't see why I'd put them under Henry. Kofi matches I'd generally prefer to Henry matches, and Truth just always strikes me as average, but it's tough to rate him. Santino's the toughest to rate because his gimmick restricts him immensely. I think I may have jumped the gun a bit on Santino and Truth, but Henry strikes me as average-below average, which puts him at a 5 on my scale. He's had some good-great matches in the last year though with Punk, Orton, and Show... so maybe I should give it some more thought. Wouldn't put him above Kofi though. Keep in mind, I'll probably change a lot of these numbers as time goes on, but generally if they're within a point of each other, I could probably swap them at some point.

[The Beast Incarnate]

I want everybody'z STARZ for HHH-HBK SS 02. Just to compare to my own (which I shall not reveal until this whole project is done ). Had it at ***** on my very first watch... DO I FIND IT OVERRATED NOW ? CAN IT SUSTAIN ? IS IT A GREAT, BUT NOT ALL TIME CLASSIC MATCH ?

TUNE IN NEXT WEEK, SAME :hhh TIME , SAME :hhh CHANNEL.

[shawnmichaelsisgod]

Summerslam 2002- **** 3/4

One of my favourites of all time, shawns selling of the back was patchy that's the only reason it doesn't hit 5 stars for me.
Would have to be in my top 25 matches ever from a wwe standpoint.

[ShowStopper '97]

Originally Posted by Stocking Filled w/HAYLEY JOY~!

JR, Triple H, Pat Patterson, etc.

Calling him the greatest ever. That's how.

Well, they all worked with eachother for years and got to see everything up close. They know more wrestling then we will ever forget. If all of them come to the same conclusion, I think it's their honest opinion.

I personally think Flair is the greatest ever. Shawn does, as well. But after Flair, HBK is up there somewhere. So, I don't know, I wouldn't say they are royally overrating him. Just my opinion.

[Clique]

Originally Posted by Stocking Filled w/HAYLEY JOY~!

People "in the business" royally overrate HBK too. Not that doesn't matter.

I think Shawn will always get the overrated label from some fans because he has so many highly acclaimed performances that are bound to not come off as impressive to a segment of fans as it has for others. I truly believe there was something special he brought to his performances that just left impressions on people like very few wrestlers can. Whether Shawn was selling and bumping around the ring as a heel getting his comeuppance or a babyface in peril. The acting and facial expressions he brought in the latter years of his career were just brilliant.

And with a resume of matches/performances/in-ring moments Shawn has I don't see a problem with wrestlers in the industry calling him the best performer in WWE.