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Old 12-12-2012, 03:53 PM   #11011 (permalink)
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I love Punk, but this run of his but completely and utterly stale in every sense of the word for MONTHS now. Alot of it is writing and booking, but that's what hurt other wrestlers run with the title as well. It all counts. And this has been a bad period for quite some time now..
Working with Ryback for the last 3 months would kill anyone lol . Hopefully things pick up with the Rock feud.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:54 PM   #11012 (permalink)
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Raw is at its worst right now. Punk is part of the reason to me but not the only one.
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If CM Punk/Paul Heyman weren't on RAW , it would be the worst wrestling show of all time right now. Dead serious when I say that too. Cue the "It's alweady the worst show ever!" rage

Seriously. Take CM Punk off of these shows, and who the fuck else could they use to fill the time spent on him ? Orton ? Fuck no. MORE CENA ? Fuck no. Young Guys ? HA. YOUNG GUYS? Since when does WWE promote the up and comers ? MORE DEL RIO/BARRETT/KOFI/TRUTH/ALL OF THE OTHER SHITTY TALENT? No thanks. Punk gets a ton of TV time because he's the champion, the number 1A guy in the company, entering the undisputed biggest feud in the company and one of the most hyped matches ever.

Give every single person on the roster as much time as Punk on Raw, and tell me how it works out
True, but just because he is the best of other AWFUL options doesn't mean he's better than some all-time greats..
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Punk, Ziggler and occasionally AJ (yeah I said it) are pretty much the only things I give a fuck about on Raw these days. Oh and Show/Sheamus feud that despite being for the WHC which is technically "Smackdown's title" still gets more exposure on Raw lol.
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Punk, Ziggler and occasionally AJ (yeah I said it) are pretty much the only things I give a fuck about on Raw these days. Oh and Show/Sheamus feud that despite being for the WHC which is technically "Smackdown's title" still gets more exposure on Raw lol.
Replace AJ with Cesaro and that's all I care about. Oh, and Brad 'The Great' Maddox.
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Worst period for Raw for me would be either 2003 between Rock leaving and Goldberg/HHH ending, Raw 2007 during Cena/Khali and Cena/Lashley feuds, Raw 2009 with Orton/Batista, Orton/HHH and Orton/Cena or Raw 2011 between WM27 and Punk's promo. Fuck me, 2012 is like a gold mine compared to those imo. Of course, that's all down to CM Punk and if he wasn't there and Cena was still champ and on top, I may have conceded as well that 2012 is the worst year for Raw.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:58 PM   #11017 (permalink)
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He IS an all time great. Cal just said it best ; WHO THE FUCK COULD WORK AN INTERESTING PROGRAM WITH RYBACK ?

The three hour format is just BAD and insalvageable by any one performer in company history. I don't care if the supposed "GOAT's" like Rock and Austin were back on a consistent basis, if they had the supporting cast that PUNK has right now, the show would be just as bad if not worse. Like that astrophysics presenter said ; Punk is Daniel Day Lewis stuck in an endless stream of Transformers movies.

(Waiting for everybody to mark out when Rock gets "Walrus" trending worldwide )
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Oh, also Kane and Bryan. I still think they are doing great as a team. And I hope after TLC Ambrose (and those other 2 I suppose) gets to do more than attack people and feud with Ryback. Urgh, why are the more talented guys getting fed to Ryback lately? He just fucking kills any momentum anyone has by being utter shite.
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Worst period for Raw for me would be either 2003 between Rock leaving and Goldberg/HHH ending, Raw 2007 during Cena/Khali and Cena/Lashley feuds, Raw 2009 with Orton/Batista, Orton/HHH and Orton/Cena or Raw 2011 between WM27 and Punk's promo. Fuck me, 2012 is like a gold mine compared to those imo. Of course, that's all down to CM Punk and if he wasn't there and Cena was still champ and on top, I may have conceded as well that 2012 is the worst year for Raw.
I disagree on damn near everyone of them. From 2003, Scott Steiner's feud with Chris Nowinski was more entertaining than Punk has been his entire career as well as the rest of this shitty show today. 2009 with Orton as top heel was like the Attitude Era compared to today (YES, even with guest hosts!) and 2011 around May time was better than now because R-Truth made it bearable when they gave him the chance to enter the main event for a brief minute. I wont argue 2007, though. But that has more to do with what happened outside the show than the shows themselves.
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I think he's on his way to being an all-time great, but not yet. And I certainly wouldn't put him above some of the all time greats who have wrestled for 20-25 years and had to compete with better workers in the company at a time when the business was hot. Those are the shoe-in all time greats. Any wrestler who is on top now benefits that the company doesn't have many stars for them to compete with for air-time.
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