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Old 12-12-2012, 03:06 PM   #10991 (permalink)
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Likewise.

Del Rio is "good" in the ring when it comes to cranking out consistently good matches, but I find he's a horrible character, and his ability to drain the life out of whatever he's involved in blows my mind completely, as I don't remember anybody else I've ever seen in my life that wasn't a BAD worker but managed to be the least interesting man in the world.

Has there ever been a match where you said "OH MY GOD, DEL RIO'S PERFORMANCE WAS AWESOME!" ... Not in my lifetime.

He's like Barrett, except with actual in-ring talent
And Barrett's like Del Rio, but with actual mic skills, presence, some charisma, and can be interesting in a main event storyline when he's allowed to work the mic (Nexus).

Frankly, Del Rio's probably my least favorite wrestler on the roster. Can't find anything remotely interesting about the guy, and his matches are so repetitive that even his in ring work, his strongest asset by a country mile over everything else (which is all shit) has suffered in my eyes over time. His best match was probably with Punk at Survivor Series last year, and that I put at ***3/4. With Del Rio, I just don't fucking know how he ever got the WWE Title.

Between him and Sheamus in 09, how did WWE manage to pick those two out of guys for years to be the ones to be super-pushed instead of MVP, Barrett (though he did have the Nexus run, but it still amounted to nothing), Bryan, and more? I'd even take Kennedy over them. In fairness to Sheamus, he has gotten better though since then (but still one of the most boring guys on the roster), but Del Rio is as stale as when he first came in... actually he was probably slightly more interesting when he first came in due to the fact he was new to WWE.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:13 PM   #10992 (permalink)
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Barrett has mic skills? Shame he hasn't cut a promo worth a damn since the Nexus days . In fact, he hasn't done anything worth a damn since the Nexus days .

Any combination of Barrett/Orton/Del Rio/Sheamus should NEVER happen again imo. All of them just bore the absolute shit out of me when they are together. Sheamus is probably the only guy who I actually like though.
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Barrett has mic skills? Shame he hasn't cut a promo worth a damn since the Nexus days . In fact, he hasn't done anything worth a damn since the Nexus days .
Oh absolutely he does, and it's why Nexus worked as well as it could with him as the leader. Problem is, he hasn't been given the mic for more than 3 minutes since his Nexus days. His first Smackdown promo in 2011 was great though right after he was removed from Nexus. Also his little promo during the HHH walk-out segment, despite being written to be very flawed for an easy HHH counter argument, was still excellently delivered and he got plenty of heat from it despite doing nothing for months.

WWE just love shitting on Barrett though and giving him nothing to do. I mean hey, let's just have him say he's going to not fight jobbers anymore and then put him against them for several more weeks before finally having him face Sheamus several times, lose to him, and then start losing more than half his matches again (oh, and we'll give him a couple of wins over Orton, whom by that point will have lost to every heel and their mother).

Oh, and worst of all in his time in WWE, he was sacrificed to Ezekeil Jackson who... well... who the fuck knows who Ezekeil Jackson is anymore?
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I second that notion(that those four need to stay the fuck away from one another), but no doubt we see Sheamus/Barrett , Orton/Barrett, Orton/Del Rio, and Sheamus/Del Rio atleast 538 more times over the next year. I don't understand why they book these matches over and over again... They're REALLY on cruise control until The Road to Wrestlemania, in which neither of those four men will probably do anything (ESPECIALLY not Barrett or Del Rio).

WWE has a fetish for Del Rio for some reason. I don`t know HOW he gets all of these random title shots and big time matches when he loses like 90 percent of big-time PPV matches/TV matches he competes in. HE was the catalyst in my eyes that fucked up the momentum with "The Summer of Punk". WHY he pinned Punk @ Hiac 11 blows my mind and made me pissed with the E for a few months afterwards.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:28 PM   #10995 (permalink)
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So, does anyone have a count on the number of Barrett/Orton matches? Has it beaten the number of Orton/HHH matches? Hm...

Barrett/Orton:
BR2010
SVS2010
Raw after SVS 2010
SD 2011 (1)
SD 2011 (2) (I think)
TLC 2011
SD 2012 (1)
SD 2012 (2)
Raw 2012 (1)
SD 2012 (2)

10 matches I count.

Orton/HHH:

Unforgiven 04
Raw 2005
RR 2005
NM 2007 (1)
NM 2007 (2)
Raw 2008
JD 2008
ONS 2008
WM25
Bash 2009
Raw 2010

11...

I'm sure I'm missing one or two or a few from either both or one of them, but Barrett/Orton is catching up! And shows no signs of slowing down! Unfortunately.
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Barrett and Orton have probably had 50 matches together by now.

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His best match was probably with Punk at Survivor Series last year, and that I put at ***3/4.
I don't get the love for this match. Del Rio and Punk have absolutely no chemistry IMO.
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I seem to remember reports around the time Del Rio won the title that he only got it because they were touring Mexico at the time and wanting him as champ to try and draw more money. Nothing like killing the hottest thing the company has had in christ knows how many years...

And back to Wade Boring... didn't he job out to R-TRUTH on Raw this week? I hope they don't expect anyone to believe he can beat Kofi now. God, Kofi, Barrett and R-Truth are 3/4 of the main midcard scene atm. Urgh. And the other 1/4 (Antonio) is good in the ring but has a shit fucking gimmick.
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I don't get the love for this match. Del Rio and Punk have absolutely no chemistry IMO.
For me personally, it does hold a special place since I was there live for it, and it was the start of Punk's epic title run! (Which I'm sure we'll disagree on )

But I think it's a damn fine match itself, the crowd was hot, and they meshed well together. Can't think of any other Del Rio match that goes above *** though tbh, besides maybe one of the Sheamus matches and Edge/Del Rio (the latter of which I have at ***1/2, and it gets 1/2* from me for being Edge's last match).

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And back to Wade Boring... didn't he job out to R-TRUTH on Raw this week? I hope they don't expect anyone to believe he can beat Kofi now. God, Kofi, Barrett and R-Truth are 3/4 of the main midcard scene atm. Urgh. And the other 1/4 (Antonio) is good in the ring but has a shit fucking gimmick.
Jobbing to R-Truth.. I think that was the biggest facepalm I had for WWE in a long while. Barrett, who should be one of the more threatening heels on the roster can't even beat R-Truth. And people wonder why he gets no heat. He can't beat anyone that matters and now he can't beat R-Truth.

I'm becoming a fan of Cesaro. His promo on Raw though made me cringe and set me back a bit, but as usual he killed it in his match. Cesaro is just fun to watch in the ring and probably the first guy in a long time who's making me a fan solely on his wrestling. The man's a fucking beast too. Just needs a gimmick change and some improvement on the stick and he could be the top heel of the company in 2-3 years. Maybe even sooner.
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I have Punk-Del Rio from SS @ ****.

They had another match before the HIAC PPV in 2011 where Punk went over clean with just a simple kick to the head for the win. I loved it because of the element of surprise, I think we need more of that in wrestling tbh... have more matches on RAW and SMACKDOWN end with signature moves, it keeps things ALOT more interesting that way. Punk pinned Truth in the Chamber this year with the flying elbow as well.

Would it KILL a guy like Kofi to get pinned by Bryan's diving headbutt ? Seriosuly..
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Christian/Del Rio (Ladder) = ****
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