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Old 04-12-2012, 05:55 PM   #1091 (permalink)
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I want to see selling don't get me wrong but I wouldnt really in the Henry/Punk match when talking about the good points would be the selling, just didn't really add to the match. Having said that I do like to see selling and will obviously praise it when necessary.

I don't buy the fact about wondering how Cena will fightback as its too anticlimactic for me, that's not taking away he's a fantastic worker, just not a lover of that side of his gimmick.
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Old 04-12-2012, 06:01 PM   #1092 (permalink)
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I think Cena's comebacks have progressively gotten less dramatic the longer he's stayed on top, that I can certainly agree with. Still seeing some of the beatings he takes against the likes of Umaga, JBL, Lashley, Orton, Show, hell even the decent Khali match from ONS: his charisma draws me into his beating and like I said the crowd heat for/against him only adds to the match and makes it less painful to sit through than the same workover being done to dead silence. That's not meant to read as a poor crowd=bad match, just that in Cena's case the crowd constantly being animated always helps the match tick along for me rather than meandering to the finish, though this has slowly decreased since say 2008 compared to what we have today.

As for a final point on Punk/Henry, I enjoyed the selling because it added to Punk's ordeal. Like facing Henry 100% is bad enough but seeing him time after time try to mount a comeback only to get swatted away and then get his back further torn to shreads felt like when he finally DID put the big man down it felt like a huge moment because he'd been looking for that bit of offence the entire match. If he isn't hurt going in and doesn't get further worked over like he did I doubt I'd have bought that spot as well as I did, and the crowd losing their shit for it as well only added to my enjoyment for the buildup to it.
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What are you guys thoughts on Mania 14?
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Old 04-12-2012, 06:13 PM   #1094 (permalink)
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One of the most epic Manias ever, not in terms of star ratings, but in terms of general feel and overall entertainment value.
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I actually enjoyed with his matches with Khali too strangely enough. Maybe it's because I'm getting older and I don't want much wrestling anymore, I just don't appreciate the way Cena finishes many of his matches even if it's toned down because I always expect it. I like Cena though, I respect his work and admire what he has done for this company.

Different strokes on Punk/Henry, maybe well agree with another match sometime soon.

WM 14 is pretty good, nothing amazing but consistent attitude era matches.

I've also been flicking through every PPV in 1999 and what's common is the lack of match quality in the undercard. The only thing that kept many of the PPVs alive was the main events as they were usually stacked with Austin, Trips, Rocky, Taker and Kane. Okay the matches were more entertaining back then but PPV quality today apart from 2000 is very strong. People are just too quick to criticise.
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CM Punk vs Mark Henry (WWE Raw; 2012/04/02)
Not as high on this match as others and I didn't understand the hype for it on my first viewing, but after a rewatch I can see the neat little things I missed out on because of me getting easily distracted because of the 'YES!' chants. Looking back in retrospect, those chants may of actually hurt the match. It seemed as if the crowd were more entertained by chanting rather than enjoying the match, but at times, they benefited the match by adding Punk's comebacks. Punk still sold the damage from his previous match with Jericho and combined with Henry's awesome trash-talking really made Henry look unbeatable. This match tells the classic tale of 'underdog babyface faces huge monster heel' and it does that very well.
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Best of WWE in 2012:
1. Punk vs Jericho (WrestleMania; 04/01) ****1/4
2. Punk vs Bryan (Raw; 01/31) ****1/4
3. Punk vs Henry (Raw; 04/02) ***3/4
4. Kofi vs Ziggler (Superstars; 03/08) ***3/4
5. Punk vs Ziggler (Royal Rumble; 01/30) ***1/2

Only a rough draft. Anything from this year I should watch?
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Punk/Ziggler 2/3 falls on a House Show is getting some praise as a damn fun match and an example of WWE doing a great house show match.

Superstars hasn't been great, Hunico v Kidd was on last week but I wasn't feeling it much at all and definitely can't see you thinking its a MOTYC or even worth watching. Sets up a rematch potentially well, but as a lead in it wasn't much due to the commercial break cutting Hunico's heat section out entirely.

If you can find it I know the Mania tag title pre show match got a good review from a lot of folk, a bit spotty by all accounts but that's what you expect in a 3 way tag team match.

Bryan/Orton's first match was going really well until the finish. Thought they mixed well and Bryan looked damn good as the opportunistic heel capitalising on any flaw in Orton's game. I do remember some of Orton's comeback feeling a bit forced however, sometimes WWE face comebacks come off too choereographed with the heel repeatedly bumping in combo fashion and Orton's is usually as bad as anyone's when it comes to not mixing it up in that regard.

Orton/Kane Street Fight from last week was apparently better than the Wrestlemania bout according to Cal.

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What's a good PPV to watch from last year?

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Orton/Kane Street Fight from last week was apparently better than the Wrestlemania bout according to Cal.
Around the same level as the Wrestlemania match, maybe slightly better, meaning it's a good match but not a great one. Does anyone else think Kane has improved as a worker since his return? I haven't seen a bad match from him since I started back watching wrestling. That's not saying a whole lot because I've only seen his three PPV bouts this year and now this SmackDown street fight with Orton but he's looked good in all of them.

Punk is the wrestler of the year by a distance at this point.

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Money in the Bank was really fucking good.
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