[Yeah1993]

Originally Posted by MachoMadness1988

Agree to disagree I guess about Hogan/Warrior. I just never liked either one of them as far as what they did in the ring. It was like oh lets play mercy for a few minutes, let me fake an injury outside of the ring for a few minutes, let me put the sleeper on you, lets both do our finishers, etc.

What's wrong with that? "oh let's do this and that and then hit our finishers" is pretty much every WWE mian event match. I get not liking the match, but it seems like you're talking about parts of the match instead of negative parts about it.

Also antoniomare-

Austin's punches. FUCK Austin's punches. He has this terrible flimsy babyface flurry of punches that look weaker than just about anything. There's one punch in the Angle SummerSlam match though, looked tremendous liked he actually decked Angle straight in the face. I re-wound it a bit beccause it looked so awesome.

Funk....I guess i shouldn't commnt on his peak (whenever that is) since it's been a while since I've watched it, but I don't remember Funk working a finishing stretch as well as some guys. Again. been a while, so that's probably horseshit.

Benoit tried to hard sometimes. Sounds silly to "try too hard," but look at 2002-2003 Benoit compared to 1995-1996 Benoit and it's a different animal. 02-03 is extremely favourable with a lot of people, but I'm not one of them. Worked like a smarter Kurt Angle, and a smarter Kurt Angle is still a Kurt Angle. And a Kurt Angle is a wretler who I don't care for, even if, again, his stuff is extremely favourable with a lot of people. Chris got back on track by mid-04 at least, thoguh. And by "back on track" I mean "a style that I actually really like."

Lawler might have needed more offense, but at the same time...he really didn't. He probably comes off as a little one-sided; it's a little odd that he starts the match with punches and then they just start to work after he's been beaten down, but he's so excellent at that that it doesn't matter.

Flair remained too "the same," I think. He goes bat-shit insane old man in 2004, but he probably should have done that by 95 (which he did in promos, anyway). The "all Flair matches are the same argument" should be dead, but the Flair of the late 90s needed a change from working as "The Man."

[Heathy]

I have just finished watching the new DVD and I have to say I thought it was brilliant!

I was very surprised how big Triple H and Y2J are on The Rock, they could not have offered more praise then they did !

Rockys reasoning for going into movies and leaving the WWE behind was very interesting and one I hadnt heard before. To me it makes total sense and it answers John Cenas main arguement totally. He wanted to conquer Hollywood alone without the springboard of WWE and he made that decision. When he had done that he felt he could return.

The one disappointment for me was their was enough time spent on the SCSA fueds and they to me have been The Rocks pinnacle moments, but thats just my opinion. The DVD extensively looks at the start of his WWE career with about 40 mins dedicated to the rise of Rocky Mavia, leader of the nation, corporate champ and then the peoples champ.

All in all i really enjoyed it and for any Rock fans i believe it is a must purchase!

[Peapod]

Watched it the other night, good watch very interesting.

[Tronnik]

I really enjoyed the biography as well. The matches included could have been much better but it was a great DVD. And yeah it was a great point. It was better to not have him for 7 years than to have him come back every year to promote a new movie. People need to accept that I mean how long is every one going to go and on about this. Chances are every one would have bitched even more if he didn't return at all.

[antoniomare007]

Originally Posted by Yeah1993

Also antoniomare-

Austin's punches. FUCK Austin's punches. He has this terrible flimsy babyface flurry of punches that look weaker than just about anything. There's one punch in the Angle SummerSlam match though, looked tremendous liked he actually decked Angle straight in the face. I re-wound it a bit beccause it looked so awesome.

Funk....I guess i shouldn't commnt on his peak (whenever that is) since it's been a while since I've watched it, but I don't remember Funk working a finishing stretch as well as some guys. Again. been a while, so that's probably horseshit.

Benoit tried to hard sometimes. Sounds silly to "try too hard," but look at 2002-2003 Benoit compared to 1995-1996 Benoit and it's a different animal. 02-03 is extremely favourable with a lot of people, but I'm not one of them. Worked like a smarter Kurt Angle, and a smarter Kurt Angle is still a Kurt Angle. And a Kurt Angle is a wretler who I don't care for, even if, again, his stuff is extremely favourable with a lot of people. Chris got back on track by mid-04 at least, thoguh. And by "back on track" I mean "a style that I actually really like."

Lawler might have needed more offense, but at the same time...he really didn't. He probably comes off as a little one-sided; it's a little odd that he starts the match with punches and then they just start to work after he's been beaten down, but he's so excellent at that that it doesn't matter.

Flair remained too "the same," I think. He goes bat-shit insane old man in 2004, but he probably should have done that by 95 (which he did in promos, anyway). The "all Flair matches are the same argument" should be dead, but the Flair of the late 90s needed a change from working as "The Man."

awesome.

[Killswitch Stunner]

Austin wasn't a great puncher, but he's the best mudhole stomper in the business.

[Razor King]

The top WrestleMania main events:

1. X-Seven
2. XX
3. XXVI
4. XXIV
5. 22
6. XII
7. VI
8. III
9. XIX
10. 23

I'm a big fan of Hogan/Andre. I just seem to like the match very much. On the contrary, I'm not very high on Cena/Michaels.

On Iron Man Matches, I don't like calling a 30 minutes match--an Iron Man match because there is nothing "iron" in going for 30 minutes. I'll still include Steamboat/Rude because it's pretty awesome.

Steamboat/Rude ~ **** 1/2
Michaels/Bret ~ ****
Hunter/Rock ~ **** 3/4
Lesnar/Angle ~ **** 1/4
Hunter/Benoit ~ *** 1/2
Cena/Orton ~ ** 3/4

For Angle/Michaels, I haven't watched it since then and I remember being pretty unimpressed back then. In fact, their "Iron Man" match and the one at Vengeance 2005 might be two of the most awful "Icon" matches of all time.

[Yeah1993]

I went to list the top ten Mania main events and there are only seven I actually really care for. Couldn't even put them in decisive order. Poo.

[Killswitch Stunner]

Anyone remember what year Triple H vs. Edge on Raw was when they were in Japan? I wanna say 2004 but not sure.

[Yeah1993]

After a little checking it was apparently February 2005.