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Some STAR RATINGS for Bork Laser's dvd

Bork V Hogan 2002 ***
Bork V Rock SS 2002 ****
Bork V UnderGoat UF 2002 ****
Bork V UnderGoat NM 2002 ****1/2
Bork V Angle WM 2003 ****1/4
Bork V Angle Iron Man 2003 ****1/2

Blu Ray extras

Bork V Angle V Big Show VG 2003 ***3/4
Bork V Triple H V Rock Global Warming (lol wut) ***
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:14 AM   #10672 (permalink)
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Figure I might as well add a few more obscure 80's matches that need some love.

Tully Blanchard vs Ron Garvin, National Heavyweight Title (Worldwide 5/3/86)

Amazing match, one of the best title matches I've ever seen and arguably a top 25 match in US history. Think it was a televised match as well so its also definitely in the running for greatest TV match of all time. Garvin is no Windham, Steamboat or Morton when it comes to 80s babyfaces, but he's still great in his own right and the build around his injured hand is wonderful storytelling. Blanchard demonstrates why people consider him such a special talent from the era with a wonderful heel performance that shows you he could have been a heel to rival Flair in the main event. Match also has arguably the best Dusty finish of all time too. Perfection.

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Tully Blanchard vs Ron Garvin, NWA National Heavyweight Championship, (Worldwide, 05/03/1986)

This is a spectacular TV match, arguably up there with some of the greatest televised matches from any era in any promotion. It had an organic Benoit vs Finlay feel in how everything was a struggle, every hold felt important and dramatic and the crowd was magnificent.

To touch on the last point first, this crowd is ridiculously amazing for Garvin. Its about as loud and consistent as I can recall for 1 match, seeing them getting thunderous ovations for simple lock ups and test of strength spots is amazing.

Garvin comes into this with an injured hand as a result of the Horseman & Blanchard in particular I believe. His selling of the hand is awesome, he establishes it as a major weapon early on before then refusing to use the hand due to the pain and sets about resorting to kneedrops and awesome headbutts to compensate. He can't hook the leg on pins or abdominal stretches and constantly shakes at the hand after the odd offensive manouevre. Tully is terrific in peppering him with kidney and face shots in the hopes of getting Garvin to use his injured arm and its this spot that leads to Garvin using his noggin to send Tully loopy. Tully establishes himself as a terric bumper and spends the best part of the opening 5 minutes working from the bottom and constantly being one upped and seeking JJ Dillon's guidance. There's one spot in particular with Garvin jumping to the turnbuckle and over Tully before catching him in a backslide for a close fall.

I touched on it earlier that this match is one giant struggle for control and a beautiful exchange of crucifix pins highlights this. Tully deadweights on every attempt to gain control and Garvin really sells the difficulty in trying to force him down to the mat. JJ is a constant maniacal genius with how he distracts the referee long enough to have Tully reach the ropes and there's a beautiful spot where JJ talks to the ref whilst simultaneously dragging Tully to the ropes. Garvin realises he's overwhelmed and sets about ripping Tully's leg out of his socket and locks in a couple of leg locks to gain control. Tully sells it amazingly by constantly fallinf down when trying to get to his feet and constantly rolling under the ropes for a breather, lovely stooging by Tully.

No sooner have they reached 15 minutes and both men are selling the wear and tear of the match to perfection. There's a beautiful pacing in stretching out bursts of offence before selling the damage and teasing close near falls. Garvin in particular looks a perfect babyface worker: looking invincible in spells before selling himself as a biable underdog and pacing the match superbly. Tully smartly sets about using the hair and tights to keep control and I marked out for an attemped roll through pin which Garvin counters by grabbing the ropes before screaming in pain and almost letting go with his damaged right hand. JJ finally gives Tully a means of control via a foreign object which Tully smashes off of the injured arm before removing the tape and working it over nicely with submissions and stomps. Garvin again sells to perfection and the women are almost crying: everytime you see a kid in the audience with his mom screaming you believe good ol' Ron had his way with the mom at some point in time.

The finish though puts this over as a classic. Dusty Rhodes has enough with the cheating and gives Garvin some extra tape to protect his injured hand and make it deadly whilst JJ is in the process of handing Tully a roll of quarters. The crowd reaction is amazing as both men rise to their feet with loaded weapons and turn ever so slowly before Garvin finally connects with a right hand sending the bag of change everywhere and scoring the 1-2-3!!!!!!

But JJ enters the ring and points Tommy Cooper to Garvin now having a loaded hand and accuses Dusty of shenanigans and Tommy reverses the decision and this crowd is freaking PISSED. Perfect heel finish and I loved it.


Sgt Slaughter vs Iron Sheik, Boot Camp Match (6/16/84)

I go back and forth when it comes to best matches in company history, but if you asked me today I don't think there's a better match in WWF/E history than this. Just a pure brawl and incredible spectacle capped with immense storytelling and callback spots throughout the feud and one of the most rabid and passionate crowds I've seen. Can't really do justice to just how insane and perfect it is, it is something you have to see for yourself.

Sgt Slaughter vs Pat Patterson, Alley Fight (4/21/81)

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Amazing brawl. Slaughter takes a lunatic ring post bump and ends up bleeding on a scale Eddie Guerrero would replicate 23 years later. Patterson is a tremendous ass kicker from here on out, zeroing in on the cut and working it to perfection. Stiff and lunatic brawl with two tremendous performances from babyface and heel.

Bob Backlund vs Greg Valentine (2/19/79)

Their famous match which I think is a lock for top 20 in company history and depending on my mood I can see it pushing between top 15 and maybe higher. Its a fairly basic match formula executed to perfection: Valentine spends a lot of the early going being outwrestled by Backlund and shows his frustration really well. I enjoyed him using the ribs as a target to weaken Backlund to set up some arm work and neck work, and I loved the full nelson spot where Backlund countered and tortured Valentine for a good minute or so. I really love these sort of simplistic spots from the 70s and 80s in developing the story of one man being ahead of the other, of course the continued frustration of Valentine being outmatched by Backlund builds really well into Valentine's control segment. His leg work is really good (and a nice payoff to the arm and neck work being useless) and Backlund has some really great selling moments, particularly on a underhook suplex attempt. One of my favourite 60 minute draws ever, though I'd probably just put Windham/Murdoch and Windham/Flair ahead of it.
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Survivor Series 2003 star ratings plz
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SS 03:

Team Angle (John Cena/Chris Benoit/Bradshaw/Hardcore Holly/Kurt Angle) Vs Team Lesnar (Brock Lesnar/A-Train/Big Show/Matt Morgan/Nathan Jones) - ***

Lita Vs Molly Holly - WWE Women's Title - **1/2

Kane Vs Shane McMahon - Ambulance Match - **

Basham Brothers Vs Los Guerreros - WWE Tag Team Titles - ***

Team Austin (Shawn Michaels/Bubba Ray Dudley/D-Von Dudley/RVD/Booker T) Vs Team Bischoff (Chris Jericho/Christian/Mark Henry/Randy Orton/Scott Steiner) - ****

The Undertaker Vs Vince McMahon - Buried Alive Match - *1/4

Triple H Vs Goldberg - World Heavyweight Title - *
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The Rockers vs The Brain Busters ~ MSG 1/23/89
Bret Hart vs Owen Hart ~ WrestleMania X
Bret Hart vs Owen Hart ~ Summerslam 1994
Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon ~ WrestleMania X
Bret Hart vs Steve Austin ~ WrestleMania 13
The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels ~ Badd Blood 1997
Cactus Jack vs Triple H ~ Royal Rumble 2000
Edge & Christian vs The Hardy Boyz vs The Dudley Boyz ~ Summerslam 2000
Chris Jericho vs Chris Benoit ~ Royal Rumble 2001
Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit ~ Royal Rumble 2003
Triple H vs Shawn Michaels vs Chris Benoit ~ WrestleMania 20
Triple H vs Shawn Michaels vs Chris Benoit ~ Backlash 2004
Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels ~ No Mercy 2008
The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels ~ WrestleMania 25
John Cena vs CM Punk ~ Money in the Bank 2011

I'm kind of a mark for ladder matches. Also never realized how many Shawn Michaels matches made my list.

HERE'Z MINE ATM (Gonna rewatch before the end of the year) ;

Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat : Wrestlemania III
Bret Hart vs Owen Hart : Wrestlemania X
Bret Hart vs Steve Austin : Survivor Series 1996
Bret Hart vs Steve Austin : Wrestlemania XIII
Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker : IYHBB 1997
Triple H vs Cactus Jack : Royal Rumble 2000
Triple H vs Chris Jericho : Fully Loaded 2000
Triple H vs Chris Benoit vs Shawn Michaels : Wrestlemania XX
Kurt Angle vs The Undertaker : No Way Out 2006
The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels : Wrestlemania XXV
The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels : Wrestlemania XXVI
John Cena vs CM Punk : Money in the Bank 2011
John Cena vs Brock Lesnar : Extreme Rules 2012

Top 10 On the Outside Looking In ;

Brock Lesnar vs Eddie Guerrero : No Way Out 2004
Royal Rumble Match 1992
Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit : Smackdown 2001
The Undertaker vs Triple H : Wrestlemania XXVII
Steve Austin/Triple H vs Chris Benoit/Chris Jericho : Raw 2001
Chris Benoit vs Kurt Angle : Royal Rumble 2003
CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan : Over the Limit 2012
Batista vs Triple H : Vengeance 2005
Steve Austin vs Kurt Angle : Summerslam 2001
The Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar : No Mercy 2002

This could change. I'll letcha know

The-Rock-Says, you're going to fucking LOVE the Brock DVD. It's my second favorite of 2012 because of one simple reason ; Lesnar makes everything entertaining. The DVD has some squashes on it, but they're absolutely awesome squashes that you enjoy every minute of. I mean, who doesn't want to watch Brock nearly kill Jeff Hardy ? If Brock had the passion for the business that some of the all-time greats had, he would have been the GOAT in my mind honestly due to being the most physically talented in-ring performer ever.

UGH.... We NEEEEED Rock-Brock II. The original is one of my favorite matches... Like... EVER. Lesnar should wrestle two more matches en route to Wrestlemania though (and if he wants to give it up then he can, but he really shouldn't ) ..... Come back at the Rumble and cost Rocky the championship, then somehow wrestle John Cena again @ Elimination Chamber and win in brutal fashion , then have him lose to Rocky at Mania. Box office records broken, and we get a match that's probably 10x better than Cena-Rock as it would be more of an athletic contest (since Cena isn't a 10th of the pure athlete Rock and Brock are, I think that's what makes their match at Summerslam so special).

Fuck, I don't even care if another Wrestlemania ends with Rock on top, I just want Lesnar-Rock II. Although I'd prefer Punk-Taker main eventing, in what's the only match that could potentially follow this one. If WWE doesn't completely FUCK THIS UP we're in store for the supercard of supercards.
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My five star matches: (WWE only, not that I have any from other promotions)

Bret Hart vs Stone Cold - Wrestlemania XIII
Stone Cold vs The Rock - Wrestlemania X7
Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit - Royal Rumble 2003
Chris Benoit vs Triple H vs Shawn Michaels - Wrestlemania XX
Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels - Wrestlemania XXV

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Team Angle vs Team Lesnar - ***1/2
Lita vs Molly Holly - **1/2
Kane vs Shane-O-Mac - ***
Basham Brothers vs Los Guerreros - Don't remember
Team Bischoff vs Team Austin - ****1/4
Undertaker vs Vince - ***1/4
Goldberg vs Triple H - *1/2
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How good is the CM Punk DVD? I could have purchased it at least 5 times already, just don't want to get it, and it's not as good as expected.
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I liked it very much. It's one of the best DVD's made by the WWE
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How good is the CM Punk DVD? I could have purchased it at least 5 times already, just don't want to get it, and it's not as good as expected.
It's a top 5 DVD ever produced by the WWE IMO , with perhaps the GOAT documentary in terms of a single-star biography. The match listing is absolutely stellar as the third disc is one of the best discs of matches that the WWE has ever produced.

The only DVDs I'd have above it ATM are TURFC , and MAYBE a few others such as Rey Mysterio ; Biggest Little Man , Bret Hart ; TBTI,TBTW,ATBTEWB , and Austin's latest four disc set. Absolutely fantastic DVD, and if every other superstar doc went this much in depth to an individual with great matches on the side as they did with Punk, they'd hit far more home-runs in the DVD department than they do now.

I still can't get over the fact that in the same year they released Punk's DVD (One of the best ever) , they released another DVD that angers me so much because of it's existence. Not even going to name it because it's a fucking waste of though, I might as well make a list of the bottom five WWE DVDs ever over Christmas Break, because it seems as if I'm watching a ton of shitty stuff lately
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Triple H doc plz.
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