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post #10511 of 20566 (permalink) Old 12-08-2012, 08:16 PM
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That's an interesting choice. They had that little Raw main event in 02 with the screwy finish involving HHH but I certainly would have been interested in more build and a PPV match between those Mr. WrestleMania and Mr. Pay Per View.
Yeah. I did it basically because I personally would have had a Smackdown guy win MITB - probably Matt Hardy - so that the SD main event scene would have a new, fresh face rather than King fucking Booker. So having RVD against Michaels would have slingshotted RVD in to stardom with a good, long programme between the two. It also gets rid of that horrible (in my opinion) Shawn/McMahon feud. Kills three birds with one stone, so to speak.

It's baffling how much of a letdown Mania 22 was, and what it could have been with the talent that they had.
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I actually forgot about McMahon/Michaels when I thinking about how I would re-work the card. I didn't enjoy the feud but the match at Mania was better than I expected. Michaels/RVD sounds great though. Not so sure about Matt winning MITB though. Maybe out of the guys left when you take out RVD he may be the best option. RVD was a perfect choice especially with what they did with the cash-in at One Night Stand.

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You wanna talk about rebooking WM22? My fantasy booking of it would have guaranteed the greatest PPV ever!

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Wrestlemania 22:

World Tag Team Championship: Kane & Big Show (c) vs Carlito & Chris Masters
Winner: Kane & Big Show

Money in the Bank: Finlay vs Matt Hardy vs Shelton Benjamin vs Mark Henry vs Ric Flair vs Rob Van Dam
Winner: Rob Van Dam

Hardcore Match: Edge vs Mick Foley
Winner: Edge

US Championship: Booker T (c) vs JBL
Winner: JBL

Women's Championship: Trish Stratus (c) vs Mickie James
Winner: Mickie James

Interpromotional Match: Shawn Michaels (Raw) vs Eddie Guerrero (Smackdown)
Winner: Eddie Guerrero

Streak Match: The Undertaker vs Chris Benoit
Winner: The Undertaker

Grudge Match: Bret Hart vs Vince McMahon
Winner: Bret Hart

World Heavyweight Championship: Kurt Angle (c) vs Rey Mysterio vs Randy Orton
Winner: Rey Mysterio

WWE Championship: John Cena (c) vs Triple H
Winner: John Cena

Battle of the Legends: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Hulk Hogan
Winner: Steve Austin

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Really enjoyed HBK/McMahon at WrestleMania 22. Feud was good to. Vince put a great performance considering he was 60 at the time and the finish when HBK delivered a elbow drop from the top of the ladder onto Vince who was on a table with a trash can over his head was just epic. My second favorite match on that show behind Edge/Foley. What I can say, I'm a bit of hardcore match mark. Didn't really care for Cena/HHH.
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Really like your WrestleMania 22 card, Choke2Death, really do. That's some fantasy booking at its finest, and I definitely would have given my money to see that. Undertaker vs. Chris Benoit? Shawn Michaels vs. Eddie Guerrero? I would've been all f*cking for it, those would've been two beyond amazing matches. Shame that neither of them happened, especially the latter since we were so very close in seeing it. As far as the other match goes, I feel WWE could've easily have done something with that in 2006, they even put them in a storyline feud on a SmackDown vs. Raw video game!

Also, I'd comfortably say that CM Punk's the better overall talent, but that doesn't take anything away from Edge. Better amount of charisma, better character, better face, better heel, better mic-skills, better ring-skills. The latter had the better feuds (John Cena in 2006, Undertaker in 2008), but that's probably about it.

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Yeah, WM 22 was a letdown even though I still really liked it. All fantasy bookings seem like it would've been top 3 Manias. What are the other WMs that are the best examples of shoulda, woulda, coulda?

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I can't think of anything Edge is better than CM Punk at. I do really love 2000 goofball backstage skit Edge and Christian, though, and they're a fun in-ring tag team. Honestly though as far as Christian tag teams go I prefer Christian/Jericho for matches. OH SHIT! Someone do Christian/Jericho v Booker T/Goldust as a series. No, seriously. It's tremendous. I watched those a few months ago. They have like five really good matches and one that I swear is close to being a WWE MOTYC for 2002. Maybe. I guess that depends on how much you like the other stuff WWE put out in 02. Regardless it's excellent.

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Speaking of Christian and Jericho, I loved their feud in 2004. One of my favorites. They had a great series of matches such as at WrestleMania 20, a steel cage match on RAW, and a ladder match at Unforgiven. I have all their notable matches from their feud and I probably rate them in this order:

RAW steel cage match > WrestleMania 20 > Unforgiven ladder match > Backlash handicap match.
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Watching Extreme Rules 2010

Tag Team Gauntlet: Sho-Miz vs Morrison & Truth/MVP & Henry/The Hart Dynasty **
I hate gauntlets.
Hair match: CM Punk vs Rey Mysterio *** 1/2
Really fun performance from both guys. Crowd was really hot and very disappointed in Punk's victory (the desired result). These two make magic when they face off (nh).
Strap match: Shad vs JTG *
Nobody cared about these guys at all. That's sad because they seemed to be trying hard. (TLW)
WHC: Jack Swagger vs Randy Orton ***
Good match. As a person that found Swagger okay as WHC I have to say I didn't even feel like this was a BIG main event style fight. It was a good match though.
Street Fight: Sheamus vs Triple H *** 1/2
Sheamus won and nobody seemed to care, some rub that was. Enjoyed the match tremendously though. It was good and physical. HHH did a great job keeping up the injury angle and the stretcher write off was a great touch.
Cage match: Edge vs Chris Jericho **1/2
This whole feud was lackluster as hell. This match was no different. Its not terrible but I expected so much more from these two. It came off as a match inside a cage instead of a CAGE match. The crowd wasn't into the match much at all and its hard to say whether the match put the crowd to sleep at times or whether the crowd was just a bad crowd.

Crowd didn't seem as into it as they should have been, specifically for Edge's offensive flurries. They seemed only to wake up when Jericho tries to escape and when they think a Spear is imminent. The Super Codebreaker was awesome, too bad the crowd didn't react like they should have. Jericho's wimpering and cowardice didn't go over well at all. The crowd really sucked the shit out of this match.

Disappointing affair, all the way around.
Extreme makeover: Michelle McCool vs Beth Phoenix DUD (TLW)
Last Man Standing: Batista vs John Cena *** 1/4
Horseshit finish, let's get that out the way first. It was creative but made Batista look foolish and in such a Looney Tunes Elmer Fudd fashion. It was embarrassing to say the least.

Very slow start, not much happening as the two really seem to be warming up as if they never faced each other before.

As the match progressed It was interesting to see Batista working a body part (the knee & ankle), its rare any type of psychology comes in on Batista's part, even more shocking is that he broke out a Figure 4 Leglock to further work the body part. I guess Flair did teach Batista basic ring psychology but its rare that he actually uses it. Of course as Cena starts his 5 moves of Doom he automatically forgets all of Batista's efforts to work the knee & ankle, as he starts jumping around as if the match just started...typical JC.

The AA on the chair spot, the wooden table spot both seemed mundane, in fact Batista forcefully ramming Cena into the ring post seemed more brutal as did he throwing Cena through the barricade. The big crowd pleaser, the AA from the steps through the announce table, woke the crowd up and was actually pretty fucking cool to see. Batista did a good job of really drawing out the most of that 9 count.

Decent match between the two outside of the terrible finish. I personally think their first two encounters may have been better.
I like the extreme rules PPV. Its the only one other than the big 4 I get every year. This particular event was okay, even though nothing particularly must-see occured.
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What are the other WMs that are the best examples of shoulda, woulda, coulda?
The World Heavyweight Championship bout from WrestleMania 27 comes to mind. Instead of Alberto Del Rio, it should've been Christian challenging Edge for the title. This wouldve been the perfect and rightful final match for the latter, and the match would've been off the charts. Or at the very least, a Triple Threat.

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