[Choke2Death]

Originally Posted by SANTA GAME

Edge needs to take psycho acting lessons from Orton who played the role to perfection imo in 09. Edge from 07-09 was borderline unbearable though. I also think that I hold the fact that he's a double digit world champ despite never being that big of a star to warrant it against him lol. He also won them all within 5 years which is fucking ridiculous. The fuck outta here with that BS.

Orton is one of the best actors in WWE. I swear, his facial expressions as the Legend Killer are SOOOOOOOOOOO AWESOME. Specially when Undertaker played mind games with him or when he got eliminated at the 06 Royal Rumble. And as a psycho, he was damn great when he shaved his head bald.

[Clique]

I loved when Edge went crazy for the build to the Hell In A Cell Match with Taker in 2008. That segment with Mick Foley on SD I will never forget. Loads of fire from Foley and I like how Edge's character was reacting to it all.

Anyway, as a character I'd take Edge over Punk. I enjoyed Edge's feuds with Angle, Benoit, Matt H, Foley, Undertaker, and Cena over Punk's feuds overall. Punk's best feuds are with Jeff H and Cena which are both very good. On the mic they are pretty close but I prefer Edge a little more (maybe because I like his personality a bit more) but I wouldn't say he's outright better. Punk is a better worker than Edge though no doubt.

[Gamblor]

Orton was a completely different type of psycho character from Edge, and personally, whenever he did get "angry", he was a lot worse than Edge at times imo. Otherwise Orton was good, but his psycho character doesn't come close to the level of difficulty Edge's did.

Edge being a double digit WHC isn't really the problem (unless you have something against him), but the fact he's never had a lengthy reign is sad. There were a few occasions where they could've kept the title on him for longer than they did. For example Edge losing his 10th WHC only to win it back that night for the 11th... I have no idea why they even fucking did that. With properly managed reigns, he shouldn't have been any more than a 8 time World Champion (that being both WWE and WHC titles combined). Edge winning the title at SVS never needed to happen or back again at RR, so you could've cut those 2 out. Edge should've still won the WHC at NWO 09, kept it through Mania, BL, JD, and then lose it Jeff when he did. That would've been a nice 4 months reign there.

It was stupid how they kept booking him to win it, only to lose it, then win it, then lose it... imo it hurt Edge's credibility, even if he does have a bigger number of title reigns.

[Starbuck]

^^^^^ Somebody at his level having that number of title reigns is a problem for me. He shouldn't be over 10. Not a fucking chance. Neither should Orton for that matter and he's only 32 or whatever he is.

Damn I forgot that Edge/Foley promo. You know that? Maybe I'll have to rethink my stance on mic work lol. It was close before but the 2 promos mentioned are definitely up there with Punk's best stuff. Hmmm....

Orton's character performance in the I Quit match vs. Cena @BP 09 is

[Big Z]

Edge never should have lost the title at the RR 2 or 3 weeks after winning it. He was probably the hottest thing in the company at that time after he dethroned Cena. And then his title run ended up being utterly pointless aside from the TLC match with Flair. RR match with Cena was pretty garbage too. Only problem at the time though is that there were still single brand PPV's so he couldn't lose it a the Feb PPV to let Cena face HHH for the title. Guess it could have happened on Raw, maybe in the match where Foley was guest ref, added more fuel to the fire for their feud with Edge blaming Foley for losing the title and not just losing a title match.

Out of the stupid amount of title reigns Edge had, he probably only really deserved 4 or 5 of them. For some reason Vince just kept throwing belts on him. Its like Vince was thinking "oh shit, Edge isn't champ. I like him. PUT THE BELT ON HIM!!!" and then when he did, he thought "oh shit, Cena isn't champ. I like him. PUT THE BELT ON HIM!!!".

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Orton's body language and facials say more than anything his mouth says into a microphone. I can't remember anything Orton has ever said other than "Eddie in hell" other than that its all facials and body language.

[Starbuck]

^^^^^ Funny you should say that lol. Remember the segment Orton and Edge had together in 2010 where Orton didn't say 1 word but had the place going mental through his mannerisms and facial expressions? That was awesome.

His title count is a joke. Yes, I have problems with it lol.

[Big Z]

Orton these days just makes me laugh with the things he does. Mainly when he stats spazzing out like a retard on the mat before he goes for an RKO that never lands so he has to hit an RKO "out of nowhere!!!!!" .

[Heterodox]

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[Starbuck]

Yeah, he has started to overdo it a lot in recent times. I much more prefer the subtlety he brought to the role, especially in early 09 in the McMahon/HHH feud. He was brilliant in that.