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Old 12-08-2012, 04:20 PM   #10461 (permalink)
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Who's the better overall package then guys?

Edge or Punk?
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Punk > Edge on the mic (I liked goofy heel Edge in 00 though)
Punk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edge in the ring
Punk's character at its best >>>>>>>>>>>>> Edge's character at his best

Punk is easily better than Edge as an overall package imo.
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I hate everything HHH/Orton & Edge/Cena. You talk about over done feuds? Jesus H. Christ it felt like the wrestled every week for years....I'm glad its over.


I always considered Edge to be a good heel, and a good talent but wildly overrated by the WWE. He was just one of Vince's "guys" and thus got shoved down everyone's throat....same as Orton (who is legitimately very good).
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Hmmmm lol. Let me think.

Mic - Punk > Edge

Ring - Punk > Edge

Look - Edge > Punk

Charisma - Don't really know tbh

Characters - Rated R Edge > Pre-MITB Punk > E&C Edge > all the other Punk's > all the other Edge's

Feuds - Both have their best programs with Cena imo. I personally prefer Edge/Cena over Punk/Cena because it really only lasted like 3 weeks when it was really good although I'll take the latter best match

Can't think of any other categories atm. What's that tally up as then lol?
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Hated Edge's feud with Cena. Dull and over done, and produced crappy matches. Edge's best singles feud is probably with Foley/ECW (once Foley joined Edge).
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Edge vs. Punk

In-ring- Punk easily
Mic- Edge
Face- Edge
Heel- Edge
Character- Rated R Superstar>SES Punk
Charisma- Edge
Feuds- Edge/Cena and Edge/Taker>Punk/Cena and Punk/Jeff (two best feuds of each)
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Wow, Edge dominated more than I would've thought. Punk easily beats Edge for in ring, although everything else I have something from Edge. Edge is one of the greatest heels of all time, mainly for his 2005-2006 Rated R run. He was fucking hated, but he was so entertaining at the same time. Thing is, while Edge was never that good in the ring (except maybe in 2002), all the categories Punk lost he was still great in... it's just Edge was better, besides Punk's face runs, and Punk's look.

Edit: Also, on the topic of Edge's acting, while in the grand scheme of things acting related he was terrible, I would put him up there on the WWE Totem Pole... though he does have some really bad moments, but it can be challenging to play a psycho, especially when Edge isn't like that at all even in the slightest in real life (from what I've seen). He managed with what he was given, and otherwise his acting was better than average by WWE standards imo.
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Edge needs to take psycho acting lessons from Orton who played the role to perfection imo in 09. Edge from 07-09 was borderline unbearable though. I also think that I hold the fact that he's a double digit world champ despite never being that big of a star to warrant it against him lol. He also won them all within 5 years which is fucking ridiculous. The fuck outta here with that BS.
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Who's the better overall package then guys?

Edge or Punk?
Microphone: Edge (I've never really found Punk convincing but listening to Edge's promos from late 04 onwards, he just has something in him that I can't point my finger at. The way he delivers his words, the intensity and his facial expressions. He sounds dead serious about what he says. Specially when it comes to backstage segments. Specially when talking about being overlooked by HBK and Benoit for Taboo Tuesday, his promo before the Taker match at WM24 and the quasi-shoot on Matt Hardy before SummerSlam. Punk is a natural talker but I don't dig his smart-ass style much. He can deliver amazing promos at times, though. Most notably the infamous "pipebomb" shoot.)

Ring skills: Equal (I really don't think I can pick a better guy on this one. Both have their hits and their misses and neither have an "explainable" wrestling style. Given the right opponent, they can deliver but neither are going to be anywhere at the top of my "greatest wrestlers" list.)

Charisma: Don't know. Neither man are the ones that show their charisma naturally or stand-out for it like Cena, The Rock or Flair.

Characters: Ultimate Opportunist/Rated R Edge is awesome and what I'm going with. Punk had something going on with that "rebellious" Voice of the Voiceless character for about a month but otherwise, I'm not a fan. SES was also very one-dimensional and repetitive.

Look: Punk has one of the worst main eventer looks ever. Despite being so proudly Straight Edge, he looks like a homeless junkie and I don't know if he has an ounce of muscle in his body. No jokes. Edge is not exactly comparable to Batista or Mark Henry but he's got this one too.

Heel/Face: Edge is a better heel as shown by his 2005 character. He is just so despicable there, I actively root against him when watching the matches or segments. As a face, Edge is able to pull it off better since I just can't buy into Punk as a face at all. He was terrible as the sympathetic babyface in the Jericho feud and he was terrible at being Cena 2.0 with his terrible attempts at being corny.

Feuds: Both had their best feud with Cena but Edge is by far Cena's greatest rival ever so the answer is clear here. Unfortunately for Punk, his feud with Cena was cut short but it had a lot of potential. Since then, I couldn't have cared less about the restart of their feud because it is missing that natural chemistry from 2011.

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Haven't watched a single Smackdown since Orton got suspended, so you can bet on me missing it. I have watched a few matches here and there, almost exclusively Orton stuff but my answer is an obvious no. I'll have to go check it out now you mention it, though. A MOONSAULT from someone like Del Rio? He's a pure athlete but due to his height, I never expected that.

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Edge and Cena's promo on SD in 09 is fucking AWESOME. Just thought I'd throw that in there lol.
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Edge needs to take psycho acting lessons from Orton who played the role to perfection imo in 09. Edge from 07-09 was borderline unbearable though. I also think that I hold the fact that he's a double digit world champ despite never being that big of a star to warrant it against him lol. He also won them all within 5 years which is fucking ridiculous. The fuck outta here with that BS.
Orton is one of the best actors in WWE. I swear, his facial expressions as the Legend Killer are SOOOOOOOOOOO AWESOME. Specially when Undertaker played mind games with him or when he got eliminated at the 06 Royal Rumble. And as a psycho, he was damn great when he shaved his head bald.
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