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Pt. 2 of the Guerrero/Malenko...I'll review one more ECW match and then 2 of their WCW matches (I believe I have at least 2 in my library)


-Hardcore TV *** 1/4:
A little faster paced that the HCS match but you will see many of the same maneuvers. Malenko had this one pretty well in hand for the most part, working the midsection of Eddie but as usual Eddie snaps some quickfire offense here and there to keep the faith alive.
I particularly like the quick finish, it was so sudden it was almost like it was a fluke. Malenko lost nothing in being pinned by Guerrero in a counter-hold. The sequence was crisp, a hurricanrana by Eddie into a pin, Malenko reverses and Guerrero counters the reversal and gets the pinfall. The booking of this match was Malenko heavy, unlike the other matches that were booked to be more even, I suppose that was done due to Eddie going over in such sudden fashion. It wasn't a decisive win for Eddie but the entire ECW feud was based on them being considered equals.
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Now on to their WCW matches...let's start:

US Title, No DQ match; Uncensored 1997 *** 1/2:
A major difference from their ECW title matches already....striking! A lot of strikes to start the match off. Malenko seems really intense, when you add that to his offense. A somewhat different style considering the past contests in ECW. The pace started out fast, then Malenko went into his traditional submission based offense but not for long.


The intensity level of this match is much higher than their respectful competition matches in ECW. Eddie worked Malenko's knee with some ferocity mixing up a springboard with some submission holds...specifically an STF that looks legitimately painful. A dropkick on the knee into the ring post was pretty cool looking as well.


Its almost as if Malenko started the match as the heel but the crowd forced Eddie into working heel. Its a pretty interesting dynamic. Both guys were taunting their opponent and heeling it up. Malenko breaks out Eddie's Frog Splash (which was terrible but funny at the same time) and actually breaks the nearfall himself. Eddie uses Malenko's Texas Cloverleaf (not that bad looking). Malenko's offense a little more explosive here than usual, its a welcome surprise.


This was a fun match, well until Syxx interfered for reasons unknown to me causing Eddie to be smashed in the face with a video camera and pinned. It was a good match, but the finish was a bit unsatisfying, with all the aggression between the two, you expected a more decisive finish with one man coming out on top but I feel robbed of that because of the interference.
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Cruiserweight Title match, Starrcade 1997 *** 3/4:
Eddie working full blown heel here. As the aggression of their Uncensored match is still intact in this one. Malenko pulled off some high impact offense early before Eddie begged off and came back attacking the legs of Malenko momentarily.


Eddie's heel antics are hilarious, running on away his knees, kissing Malenko's foot, constant begging off before coming back to re-engage is entertaining. Malenko's no-nonsense face character plays off well. He punishes Eddie's foolishness instead of playing into it.


Later Eddie really opens up on Malenko's knee with various attacks, including a dropkick of the steel steps into his knee and then follows up with submission holds.
Which works perfectly into the finishing sequence where Eddie lands a huge top rope missile dropkick into the leg of Malenko and follows up with a Frog Splash on the knee for the pin.

Some good mat work but no chain wrestling, some pretty good high impact offense consisting of powerbombs and various slams. I think its one of the better matches, they had, certainly the best WCW match I've seen them have perhaps but just a shade below their ECW work despite the review score.
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It was interesting watching all these matches at one time. From the grimy, slow paced, mat struggles of ECW to the intense, faster paced, higher impact matches in WCW. I really enjoy all the matches they had, their styles mesh very well together. The ECW matches seemed to favor Malenko more, they were mostly mat based with Eddie playing underdog even if they were trying to play up them being equals. The WCW matches were more even, both guys got in a fair amount of offense and both looked good even in losses.
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Showed my friends the Rise/Fall of ECW DVD last night. They loved it but we made the mistake of starting it at 1 AM.

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Whenever me and my friends order a PPV there's usually like 8 or 9 of us, when only two of us are actually what one would call "wrestling fans". The rest just simply find the WWE very entertaining from time to time and enjoy the spectacle of me marking out for Haitch , Brock, and Punk.

Which reminds me... Have any of you ever had an OMGEPICRAGE after something you've seen in wrestling ? EVERYONE thought I was gonna rage when Rock pinned Cena, but I never because the match meant nothing to me.... I saved all of that emotion for Brock-Cena. BELIEVE ME, that freakout was fucking EPIC. When I was younger I used to cry whenever Trips lost a major match. The entire Batista series nearly drove me to insanity because I thought Haitch was crazy enough to put himself over in the end. Trips even mentions this himself in the KOK DVD in which he says "I was winning all of these matches so by the time HIAC rolled around , the mass audience believed that 'oh my god, Triple H is gonna take the title off Batista too soon'" .....

HE FUCKING KNOWS WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS OF HIM! The ultimate troll :hhh





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I've never watched a wrestling PPV with more than one person. And they've never been a wrestling fan. I prefer to watch them alone based on these experiences .

Never had any rage moments, but I've marked the fuck out on a number of occasions. Which isn't the best thing to do at like 4am in the morning .

Still need to think of a match series to watch. Not really up for anything non WWE/WCW... but I'm low on options for them .



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Still need to think of a match series to watch. Not really up for anything non WWE/WCW... but I'm low on options for them .
Ziggler/Kofi, Orton/HHH, Chavo/Hornswoggle Undertaker/Big Show?


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I watch quite a few WWE PPVs with friends when we all aren't away at uni since I know a few who are into it (ones a hardcore Cena fan and frequents bleacher report for his news. His reaction to Rocky winning was...interesting). It's probably more fun b/c I can get drunk and laugh about the bad stuff but usually if there's something great I'll go back and watch it like the next day to double check it was actually as good as I thought it was.

Totally made an ass out of myself by bigging up D Bry vs Sheamus at Mania this year, my friends reactions to the 18 seconds was merciless. Thankfully Extreme Rules proved me right

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Do something you've seen but you haven't really in-depth reviewed..... Glacier vs Wrath

In all seriousness though, I'm going to have to pick a more recent series than Savage-Hogan due to the fact that it's nearly impossible to find a handful of their televised closed circuit matches from the 80s.

I'm just gonna do the nine HBK-HHH matches because it's been 6 years since I've seen their last RAW match and I own the rest on DVD. Severely need to rewatch them all too, because I feel I've treated their series too lightly, gonna do it match my match and post how my opinion has changed over the years. It's going to be an awesome retrospective

OH MAN.... Our Mania feed came on during Kane-Orton , and we never realized that Bryan-Sheamus was the opening "match" until halfway during the PPV. My best friend went fucking NUTS because he absolutely HATES Sheamus. That was an awesome rage, Wrestlemania usually provokes heavy emotions out of wrestling fans honestly. If they had a camera on my reaction to Punk beating Cena @ SS 11 and how I went INSANE only for Del Rio to come out with the title in the end which made me RAGE... I'd be a fucking youtube sensation by now





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Unfortunately for me, I don't have a single friend who likes wrestling anymore. Plenty of them used to like it back in the day around the Ruthless Aggression period but in most cases, they lost interest around 07-08, sometimes around the Benoit tragedy to the PG rating. I think I would have joined them in that regard had it not been for forums and me turning into a smark of sorts. And I can say the same had I not thought of the idea of checking out entire years with my complete loss of interest in current day WWE.

Anyways, before I move on to the next PPV review I have coming, I'll say that the Orton/Cena series is reserved for me! 15 matches from my search so far.
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Ziggler/Kofi, Orton/HHH, Chavo/Hornswoggle Undertaker/Big Show?
Seen all the Show/Undertaker matches. Wanna try and find something I've not really seen or don't remember.

I kinda wish I had wrestling fan friends. I sort of have one who watches, but he's Stupid(Tom). And I haven't seen him in about 4 months since he got his new girlfriend. And he's like the most casual fan in terms of what he likes compared to the ubersmark that I am (best way to describe how different we are lol). My best friend watched it for a while in 00-02, though I kinda think he lost interest in 01 and just kept watching a little longer for my sake (AAWWWWWWW ain't he nice?). He was a huge fan of Austin/Angle from SS 01 . Practically the only match he remembers . Having someone as passionate about wrestling as me as a real life friend would be awesome. Especially since I make videos, as I have many ideas for shows that would involve a second person who is also a fan .



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Orton-Cena ? Dear god... Good luck

I almost just fucking killed myself laughing at this Road Warriors DVD. Animal and JR are doing an alternate commentary on the Crockett Cup 86 main event, and Animal says to JR during the match on commentary "It's called in ring psychology JR, if there's anything The Road Warriors are about, it's PSYCHOLOGY" in a DEAD SERIOUS tone. LOD HAVING FUCKING PSYCHOLOGY ?!?!?!?!! WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE ?

On a side note, about 8 matches in , I've finally seen a pretty good match... vs The Freebirds from Superclash 85. *** all the way. About 10 matches left and some of these look pretty damn good so I can't really complain. Hopefully blast through the rest of this tonight after I get dragged to a lame fucking house party by my girlfriend





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