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Yeah, no thanks at all on Orton/Rock. Am I the only one (other than Caida, I guess) who doesn't get excited AT ALL about any of Orton's feuds? Rock would outshine Orton wayyyy more than he'd outshine Punk.





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Any of Orton's recent feuds? No. He hasn't had a proper feud since Cena and HHH in 09 tbh. That's the problem with most guys these days. They have a slew of random matches instead of feuds and rivalries. Just look at Seamus/ADR for half the year. They finally gave Seamus something to work with in a proper feud with Show and look at the results.

Trips should just come out at the end of Cena/Rock and help Cena win the title for a double heel turn. Could you imagine that happening in New York of all places? Holy fuck that place would be throwing trash in the ring like there was no tomorrow. On second thought, please don't happen because that's something I definitely want to be there for, haha.
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Would like to see Orton/Lesnar, even if it's heel/heel. Make it absolutely brutal, plz.



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EDIT: Rock/Orton sounds like one of the most dull feuds on paper I can imagine. I mean I get people may be tired of Punk's waning character which has been on repeat for 3 months now, but fucking Orton is hardly going to be the guy to make a feud captivating and he'd sooner be shown up by Rock than Punk would be: not to mention I can't forsee the day that current day Orton gets a better match out of anyone than Punk.
I disagree. If Orton gets a change in character and moves away from this Viper shit, he'll be pretty good since his mic skills are not bad and he's the most charismatic guy on the roster after Cena (not including Christian since he's more often away than not). For his wrestling, I think he's always been great except when he was getting started and around 09 when he had that super methodical style. He's still the best choice after Cena from the full-time roster when it comes to "dream" matches.
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I've thought about H helping Cena win and performing a double heel turn, with H playing the Vince McMahon role, and Cena playing the Austin role. Would OWN.





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If a Cena/H double heel turn were ever to happen I'd be the happiest fan in the world lol. Seriously.

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It's still crazy to me that Orton's only 32 or whatever he is and look at his career already. Mad.
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Don't understand why people think it will be Punk/Taker and HHH/Brock. Brock/Taker has been a certainty to me since the moment Brock signed, in fact i'd be willing to bet they had it in mind before Brock even re-signed with the WWE.

A Punk/HHH would be so much better this time as well as long as it's done right, with Punk as a fully-fledged heel they can really have him & Heyman try to take over the company and all sorts. I've got an image in my brain of nearly all the heels on the roster wearing those "I'm a Paul Heyman guy" t-shirts and beating up on Cena, Rock, HHH etc. and it's beautiful. I really think the build-up to WM could be something special if it's done right.

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Wouldn't mind Punk/HHH, Rock/Cena, BROCK/Taker.





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Don't understand why people think it will be Punk/Taker and HHH/Brock. Brock/Taker has been a certainty to me since the moment Brock signed, in fact i'd be willing to bet they had it in mind before Brock even re-signed with the WWE.

A Punk/HHH would be so much better this time as well as long as it's done right, with Punk as a fully-fledged heel they can really have him & Heyman try to take over the company and all sorts. I've got an image in my brain of nearly all the heels on the roster wearing those "I'm a Paul Heyman guy" t-shirts and beating up on Cena, Rock, HHH etc. and it's beautiful. I really think the build-up to WM could be something special if it's done right.
Same. I highly doubt they signed Brock with the intentions of doing 1 match with Cena on a throwaway PPV and then 2 HHH matches without ever doing a Taker match. If I had to guess I'd say Taker was always the end game for Mania and HHH and Cena were the destination matches. It just strikes me as nuts to have Brock Lesnar at your disposal and then go and choose CM Punk for a streak match. It makes no sense lol which is why I don't think it's happening. Like I said before, they aren't that stupid
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Starbuck nailed it. Orton's feuds have been utter shite but he's not alone in that respect. Standard feud these days is guys wrestling on raw, tag match sometime before the PPV, interfering/commentating on the opponent's match and maybe a staredown. No promos, no backstage fight, no heated verbal exchange, no clear progression beyond a wrestling match. Del Rio and Orton began feuding with Orton pinning Del Rio, it ended with Orton pinning Del Rio. Never did the feud feel like it progressed or went anywhere in the 6 weeks they were feuding.

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Would like to see Orton/Lesnar, even if it's heel/heel. Make it absolutely brutal, plz.
I can't imagine Lesnar being allowed to do much at all to Orton. Isn't he still carrying a number of potential injuries, hence why he's all but slowed his style down to preserve his body? I'd sooner see Bryan face Lesnar aside from Cena. Play it up as technique vs skill, have Lesnar massacre Bryan and tease Bryan pulling out a win. He works wonderfully against monster opponents and he's got the offence to pose a credible threat to Lesnar, though I wouldn't have him pick up the win.

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I disagree. If Orton gets a change in character and moves away from this Viper shit, he'll be pretty good since his mic skills are not bad and he's the most charismatic guy on the roster after Cena (not including Christian since he's more often away than not). For his wrestling, I think he's always been great except when he was getting started and around 09 when he had that super methodical style. He's still the best choice after Cena from the full-time roster when it comes to "dream" matches.
Ehh I don't see this innate charisma in Orton at all, especially against someone like Punk who's far better at working a smarmy douchebag heel character to really make the crowd want to see Rock kick his arse. Time for Orton/Rock was back in 04-05 when Orton was at his peak as a future superstar who thought he was the dogs bollocks and who needed to be given a smack. Orton's style is the drizzling shits and I really don't see him as this megastar crowds will be dieing to see interact with the likes of Rock and Lesnar. He's over in the arenas but that's about it and there's just very little you can do with him as a character to make a feud work. At least someone like Punk has the chip on his shoulder to bring some heat and spice to a program, and he'll always have that Indy following that will make a lot of guys consider him going up against one of the company's all time greats a special sight.
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