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Old 12-05-2012, 08:18 PM   #10051 (permalink)
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I've watched almost every single Christian 2009 match I could find and literally every one of them has been good. MOTYC-level stuff with Swagger and Regal. Had arguably the career matches of wrestlers like DH Smith, Tyson Kidd, Yoshi Tatsu, Paul Burchill and Zack Ryder (and multiple matches with some of these guys) Had the best series of Tommy Dreamer's career (probably, IDR anything better). Best or second best guy in good tag matches (Christian/Zeke v Regal/Koslov, Christian/Finlay v Henry/Swagger, both matches with Dreamer as Christian's partner). Good small matches with Finlay, Kozlov, Henry. Best wrestler in the elimination four-way thingy that was to crown a #1 Contender. I see why people think HHH's 2000 is better (especially if you count non-match stuff in which case Christian was kinda bleh other than when he did that mini-rap at Survivor Series), but man I fucking adore 2009 Christian. There's a ton of stuff I haven't even mentioned. I wonder what he would have been like had he been working babyface in 01-05 WWE.

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Old 12-05-2012, 08:22 PM   #10052 (permalink)
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1. *** 1/2ish. Really slow, old school stuff. Haven't seen it in years.
2. ?
3. **** 1/2
4. *****
5. *****
6. **** 1/4 I believe. Again, been years.
7. **** - **** 1/4
8. *** 3/4

You should be buying it right now if you don't already own it.
Bought used from Gohastings for $2.50 a few days ago should be on it's way.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:23 PM   #10053 (permalink)
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MY EYES!!! THEY'RE BURNING!! MY EYEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!

For me personally, I need some sort of emotional investment in a character and/or storyline in order for me to give a fuck about most things. The fact that I can't even remember anything he did that year says it all really.
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Bought used from Gohastings for $2.50 a few days ago should be on it's way.
Oh fuck, GoHastings. Every used dvd I've ever got from them has been worn to death. The case, of course. Makes sense as to why they're so cheap.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:49 PM   #10055 (permalink)
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Only non-PPV Triple H matches from 2000 I remember are vs Taka Michinoku and vs Tazz.

I remember everything Christian did in 2009.

Take a guess at which I prefer.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:04 PM   #10056 (permalink)
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You can put me down for Triple H in 2000. Dude was unstoppable that year and worked as a heel. Was easily the most hated man in the business that year. He commanded heat, and he got it that year.
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Oh, forgot mention the obvious Triple H TV match from 2000 - vs Chris Jericho when Jericho "won" the WWF Championship. Yeah. That's a moment worth praising. Nothing to do with Triple H though. Only b/c I'm so big on Jericho.

THAT POP when he wins.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:28 PM   #10058 (permalink)
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Yeah, that Raw match was good. Their Fully Loaded 2000 match was amazing. Can't believe that match *still* hasn't been released on DVD.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:30 PM   #10059 (permalink)
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I'm the biggest HHH mark in Canada probably , and I'll stop at nothing to bring up how many AWESOME matches Trips has had over the years (just the fact that I feel he's been the BITW since 2000 kind of backs up that whole MARK claim ) , but I still don't think 2000 HHH is the greatest year for a WWE performer ever. That distinction would go to Austin in 2001 , Who never went below *** 1/2 on PPV that year and had numerous top 100 matches of all time such as the Benoit matches, the Angle matches, the 2MPT tags , vs Rock , etc.

Personally, I'd put Foley/HHH and Jericho/HHH over anything Austin has done post Bret , but that doesn't stop my opinion that Austin in 2001 was complete GOD mode. Fuck, I'm not even a big Angle fan but I'll come out and say that that motherfucker completely OWNED 2003 alongside Brock.

Top Five Individual Years in WWF/WWE History

1. 2001 Steve Austin
2. 2000 Triple H
3. 1997 Bret Hart
4. 2004 Chris Benoit
5. 2003 Kurt Angle/Brock Lesnar
HM's. 2012 Punk, 2004 Guerrero, 2007 Cena, 1996 Shawn, 1997 Shawn , etc....

Another Trips related note. I personally think the guy went through two "in-ring primes" to be honest, his first obviously being the 00-01 pre-quad tear Trips. His second prime I feel started on that December night in 2003 when he took on Shawn (the match that made him care again IMO) and ended when DX reformed in 2006. In that period I believe that he was a top 3 worker the entire time, sometimes behind Benoit, sometimes behind Benoit and Guerrero, sometimes the best in the world.

My PPV ratings for that EPIC TRIPS RUN PT.2

RR 04 vs HBK : *** 3/4
WM XX vs HBK vs Benoit : *****
BL 04 vs HBK vs Benoit : *****
BB 04 vs HBK : ****
VEN 04 vs Benoit : *** 3/4
SS 04 vs Eugene : *** 1/2
UNF 04 vs Orton : ** 1/2
TT 04 vs HBK : *** 3/4
SS 04 Elimination Tag : ****
NYR 05 Chamber : **** 3/4
RR 05 vs Orton : *** 1/2
WM XXI vs Batista : ***
BL 05 vs Batista : *** 3/4
VEN 05 vs Batista : **** 3/4
TT 05 vs Flair : **** 1/4
SS 05 vs Flair : **** 1/4
NYR 06 vs Big Show : ****
WM XXII vs Cena : ****
BL 06 vs Cena vs Edge : ****

Other EPIC Trips matches during that time period ;

vs HBK Dec 03 : **** 1/2
vs Shelton Apr 04 : ****
w/Evolution vs Benoit/Foley/Shelton/HBK : ****
vs Benoit Mar 05 : **** 1/4
vs Benoit (Gold Rush) 05 : ****

Forgetting some of them, but oh well my point has probably been made by now. He had more classics in that time period than he's had since. He's fantastic as a part-time performer for sure and has a few classics left in him as evidenced by having two top 5 matches this year (despite wrestling two matches). He had alot of GREAT matches from 07-09 , but it seems as if he only produced a classic every now and then.

Trips' **** list post second prime and pre part-time work

NYR vs Rated RKO : **** 1/4
NM 07 vs Orton : **** 1/4
NOC 08 vs Cena : ****
SS 09 vs Legacy : ****
RAW 09 vs Cena : ****
SS 09 vs Cena vs HBK : ****

Triple H from 04-06 produced over twice the amount of classics that he did from mid 06-mid 2010. He's only wrestled in six matches since then, and here are the ratings ;

vs Taker WM XXVII : **** 3/4
vs Punk NOC 11 : ****
W/Punk vs Truth/Miz VEN 11 : *** 1/4
vs Nash TLC 11 : *** 1/4
vs Taker WM XXVIII : **** 1/2
vs Lesnar SS 12 : **** 1/2

Whenever he comes back, he delivers. There's my personal ratings that basically back up how I think Trips is awesome. Believe me... Or be buried.

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Agreed. I want to own it asap.

The positive there is now whenever it will (possibly for a potential 3 disc HHH set?) it won't have to be edited. That alone makes the wait ok.
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