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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Golfing with Stephen Hawking, he lied about his handicap. Didn't need a golf cart though, I just sat in his lap.
Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
Yeah1993 covered it. I mean I think Foley is by far the better guy in the Rumble encounter and really lays out a match that gets HHH over as a massive star, but that match and the 10 man tag are the only two in my top 5 for 2000 where I don't think he's the better guy. He was definitely on in the January-July timeframe (because I think his August-December is pretty average-poor with no PPV match jumping out to me as good). He's marginally better than Jericho in the LMS match, but that's mainly because as the heel he's called on to make the bulk of the match interesting and engaging workover wise, and therefore a lot of the success in the match stems from his offence and Jericho's selling. I think he's better than Rock in both PPV matches, though both men work their socks off in the Ironman but a lot of HHH's tactics come off as good heel work and I definitely think his star shines brighter in that match.
He is far too inconsistent though. There's only 3 years where I'd call him above good: 2000, 2005 and 2008. He has moments in other years (2004 and off memory some parts of 2006) but for the most part he's definitely more hit than miss in those years. 2005 he's the ultimate prick heel and really works well to make Batista into the star that he is. I do think the Flair matches at the end of the year owe more to their greatness because of Flair's amazing performances as the psycho resilient veteran, but its not like HHH isn't adding to the match. Its just that I think his style compliments a performance like Flair's far better than if he was having the same match with a lesser talent, though you could argue that criticism applies to a lot of workers in their best years/matches.
2008 is perhaps the year he impresses me most, especially because outside of a handful of matches I've never thought he was close to a good babyface worker. He's in that Orton mould where there's just something off putting about him which makes it impossible for me to get invested in his matches. That being said his series with Hardy was especially impressive considering Hardy never stood out to me as someone who could belong in main event title matches that didn't involve a gimmick match or him being mangled by an Umaga/powerhouse wrestler. HHH worked really well as the company ace veteran and he and Hardy had a really good character dynamic in their series which complimented Hardy's great booking to slowly make him the next main event babyface.
I'd still be hard pressed to call HHH anything above good though when it comes to ring-work alone. In the right environment and against the right opponent he can excel and he has a presence that I can appreciate as belonging in the main event, but a lot of his matches generally do not interest me. His offence is pretty boring especially as a face, I don't get invested in a lot of his babyface matches where he's selling and building a story and truthfully I don't find him especially good as a heel worker unless he's being an ABSOLUTE PRICK in his matches. What I mean by that is I don't generally find a match where he's working heel and generally just working over a guy terribly interesting, but when he's stalling, abusing or interacting with a crowd and really being a huge prick (e.g the Eugene Summerslam match) I'm more interested.
TL;DR - Whilst HHH dominates my 2000, I still can't really call him anything above good as a worker. His style whilst trying to resemble that of the classic NWA formula just doesn't pull me into his matches and I don't find he does a lot of terribly interesting things to build a match, although I can understand why a lot of people think he should be praised more. I'll also say I really can't stand him in big storyline matches as I find he really feels forced in these 'PERSONAL' matches. Take the Lesnar match for example. Just the way they tried to sell that match as some impending massacre and HHH delivering dialogue such as 'This ain't UFC' just came off as terribly forced and laughable to me instead of how it was meant to come off. Maybe that's because my apathy towards him generally means I'll sour over what he does compared to someone I adore, like an Eddie or Regal but ehh, he's not my cup of tea.