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Old 12-25-2011, 06:02 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If Austin had gotten surgery straight away though and not waited TWO Years to get surgery on his neck, he could of been wrestling a lot longer. For me, with all the drugs and the rumours literally making sense, I could see how it could be a work, Michaels wasn't one to put over especially as he didn't want to even put Austin over at WM14.

Maybe Vince saw what was good for the company (Austin, Rock, HHH etc) and thought by pushing these men with HBK out the way would be better for business and guess what? It was. There was no HBK holding HHH down with the whole DX shtick etc,
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Old 12-25-2011, 08:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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One thing's for sure and that's HBK was ALWAYS a performer. I find it hard to believe it was a work due to the fact that his match with Austin wasn't nearly as good as it could've or should've been. You can clearly see Michaels struggling through that entire match and keep his back as straight as possible. No way was he faking that injury. If he was, he would've still put on one of the greatest matches (it really wasn't) of all time with Austin and then sold a fake injury backstage.

He may have faked injuries prior to that, but I don't believe for a second he did for that one. Especially during a time when it was clear the WWE was moving quickly into a more exciting time for wrestling.
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Old 12-25-2011, 09:33 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Shawn Michaels did fake injuries to the extent that some say he faked his 1997 knee injury to not job to Bret Hart. But that back injury at the Royal Rumble was real, and he through a lot of pain in his match against Steve Austin at Wrestlemania XIV. But there is a rumor that Michaels tried to use that back injury as an excuse to not job to Austin, and the Undertaker threatened him. The Undertaker claims that never happened, but who knows.
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Old 12-25-2011, 09:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Back injuries can linger for years, even though I doubt it was quite as serious as it sounded. I assume it was probably a combination of him healing, getting clean, and finding god/starting a family all at the same time, to where he just didn't want to get back in there until he was fully healed so he wouldn't immediately have to get back on the pills, and fall back into his old lifestyle. Once he was truly settled in life and knew he could handle it, then he decided to come back. that would be my guess
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Old 12-25-2011, 10:12 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Back injuries can linger for years, even though I doubt it was quite as serious as it sounded. I assume it was probably a combination of him healing, getting clean, and finding god/starting a family all at the same time, to where he just didn't want to get back in there until he was fully healed so he wouldn't immediately have to get back on the pills, and fall back into his old lifestyle. Once he was truly settled in life and knew he could handle it, then he decided to come back. that would be my guess
Every professional wrestler has a bad back, and I couldn't even imagine how sore the backs of WWF wrestlers were, especially back then when they toured a lot more and had a worse ring to work with than the ring the WWE has now. But Michaels' back injury was serious. Even the year before, he was abusing pills so much at the end that wrestlers in the back were taking bets on who would die first between Pillman and Michaels. (Pillman died in October.) Undoubtedly, Michaels was abusing a lot more after his back injury in January of 1998, to the extent that he took time off before the Wrestlemania match. To say his back injury wasn't serious as Michaels said it was is ignorant, because many sources can verify that his back injury was serious.

Concerning when Michaels made the changes, no one can know that but Michaels and his closest friends. But what I do know is when Michaels played the commissioner role in 1999, he was drunk on TV with Steve Austin, and the WWF wanted nothing more to do with him. (It's not like Michaels was ever a draw before that anyways.) So his conversion had to be after that point. He opened a wrestling school maybe a year later. He probably converted around 2000.
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Old 12-25-2011, 10:42 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm not a religious person... But to those of you who have faith in God, Buddha, whatever, my question is: Could the miracle work of a superior being have helped Shawn Michaels' back heal completely, or could the severity of the injury be a total lie?

But with these rumors, you also have to wonder... The amount of people that hated Shawn Michaels back then, surely one of them that is retired now, could have easily come forward in a shoot interview and come clean about if he was really just leaving for rehab, etc.
Shawn's wife opened him up a lot to religion around 1999. I don't think he's ever equated that to his back healing. It did seem to change his attitude a lot however. I think his religious conversion put a lot of things in his life into perspective.

I think the Shawn Michaels from 1994-1998 wouldn't have had such a remarkable comeback career or the graceful exit that he did. Something tells me the Shawn who badmouthed people and politicked and burned bridges along with other things couldn't have done that.

I envision that Shawn to what Ric Flair is now. Someone who's held on too long and is now a slave to the wrestling industry just to get by. Shawn seems to have other interests and ways to make a living so he doesn't have to crawl back to wrestling.
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I've also seen rumors of Michaels being well aware of the uprising of many young superstars, who in his absence, became mega-stars. The rumor has it that Michaels couldn't take this maturely (his ego), exaggerated the injury, and stayed aware during the biggest period in wrestling history, so he wouldn't have to leave the main event at any time for one of the new guys.

Not that I exactly believe that, but there are many theories. Then again, the injury could be totally legit, which I have always thought. But you can't forget the "injury" that kept him from dropping the belt back to Bret Hart at Mania 13.
I don't know about his feelings towards the attitude era. Of course he was the beginning of the attitude era but his retirement saw the rise of a lot of other wrestlers.

I think it was good in a way that he stepped aside. I'm sure he would've fared well during 98-early 02. But he'd been featured near constantly for 3 years as a top guy before he retired. It gave the other guys time to shine without having to compete with someone who was always trying to keep his spot.

I think it was a case of a man who had a bad back and was burned out from 11 years of work. He went through a lot of soul searching and inner growth during the time he was away. When he came back he realized that he was one of the best in the world at what he does and he regained his passion in the process.

That's why his whole run from 02-10 seemed like a chance to do what he loved without having to be so paranoid about being on top. He really turned into an elder statesmen and probably taught the young guys a lot while building new relationships.

It seems so far that Shawn Michaels has really left wrestling in the past. As of now he hasn't cheapened his retirement by coming back and I applaud him for that.
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Old 12-25-2011, 10:52 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Fuck all the stories and rumors - that injury was legit. And for the record, Shawn has given me more enjoyment watching his matches and his career than any other superstar ever.

I miss seeing him in action. But I'm glad he left on his own terms. Although I do feel like in the latter part of his career he put over way too many fucking people.

Ah well.
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Old 12-25-2011, 10:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I highly doubt he faked the injury, why would he, he was on top of the wrestling world, he the the man, and wrestling as a whole was on the peak of the biggest boom period, why wouldn't he have wanted to be apart of that.

He had back surgery in the 1999, my question is if HBK had cleaned up his life, done the rehab, could he have come back earlier, let's say sometime in 2000, meaning he would have been out for only 2 years. Which begs the question why didn't he have the surgery immediately after WM14, I'm sure he was in tremendous pain, why wait so long for surgery.
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Old 12-25-2011, 10:57 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I agree, he was such a bland face at times. Did he ever beat John Cena one on one?
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Old 12-25-2011, 11:11 PM   #30 (permalink)
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on raw 2007 but man reading this i feel hbk was 10 time hhh ego it was easy to hate the man but now he is completely another one and he put so much talents after his return
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