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Question What's The Greatest Yet Most Painful Submission Hold?

In WWE & TNA, nowadays, Submission wrestling is almost non-existent, but back in the day, many wrestlers used submission holds as their finisher or their secondary holds.
Some holds garnered ultimate fame and became signature moves of number of superstars, while some became downright underrated that anyone barely use them.
I'd like to name few of my favorite Submission maneuvers then I would like to get your opinion on the subject.

Dragon Sleeper: One of my personal favorites, a reverse dragon sleeper a.k.a inverted facelock, is both a match-ender as well as something that would be very painful if applied perfectly. When someone would pull you backwards and place their knee under your back there's simply no way out, is there?

Lion Tamer: Modified version of Boston crab that Jericho used in the past. This move is actually better than 'Walls Of Jericho IMO', because it is more painful yet difficult to counter.

Octopus hold: If applied correctly, and the opponent doesn't do anything about it then he'd have his shoulder dislocated easily.

The Rings of Saturn: Very underrated yet Very painful move, effective against any opponent, tall or small it doesn't matter, infliction of pain on the elbow and forcing the arm away causes tremendous pressure on the shoulder that can lead to some serious injury if utilized to its fullest. This move looks like there isn't any counter of it. It's a shame that this move isn't being used nowadays.

The Crippler Crossface: The way Benoit used that move, it convinced me that it's very devastating.

Honorable Mentions: Ankle lock, Chickenwing, Sharpshooter, Triangle choke.
Any comment would be appreciated!
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Re: What's The Greatest Yet Most Painful Submission Hold?

The Figure 4 hyper extends the knee soooo I'd imagine that would hurt.

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Re: What's The Greatest Yet Most Painful Submission Hold?

I like the Dragon Sleeper and Ankle Lock

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Re: What's The Greatest Yet Most Painful Submission Hold?

The Hell's Gate. It's a Triangle Choke I think? It looks painful as hell, and if done incorrectly, it can seriously injure someone or end their life.

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The Figure 4 hyper extends the knee soooo I'd imagine that would hurt.
Yep, Ric Flair has won countless matches with The Legendary Figure Leg Lock!
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The Hell's Gate. It's a Triangle Choke I think? It looks painful as hell, and if done incorrectly, it can seriously injure someone or end their life.
Nope, Triangle Choke is more like a head scissors, while in Hell's Gate, legs are held high, against the opponent's upper back.
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Re: What's The Greatest Yet Most Painful Submission Hold?

The Hell's Gate, a.k.a. the Gogoplata, is a MMA hold, just like the Triangle Choke. Both are known to choke out people, so I guess they are pretty devastating
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Nope, Triangle Choke is more like a head scissors, while in Hell's Gate, legs are held high, against the opponent's upper back.
Ohh right, thanks for clearing that up. ^^^ Gogoplata was what I was looking for.

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Re: What's The Greatest Yet Most Painful Submission Hold?

Crippler crossface. Back then and even to this day whenever I see one, I grab my neck in 'sympathy pain'. Just freakin' ow.
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The Figure 4 hyper extends the knee soooo I'd imagine that would hurt.
naw, I swear the point of that one is the way in which the knee is being bent (to the side instead of up or down)


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Re: What's The Greatest Yet Most Painful Submission Hold?

the most effective is a headlock ... no joke


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