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Old 05-16-2011, 10:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default The 7 Deadly Steps

This Al Snow shoot interview has stuck with me for a while. Are the 7 Deadly Steps Of Wrestling taught to wrestlers at schools and in developmental territories like OVW and FCW.

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He starts by saying that the same match formula is being taught to every worker in the world and because of this matches are becoming generic.

"There can be 10 matches on the card and they will be the same 10 matches"

It's the basic outline we've all seen a million times:

1) Babyface shine - The face of the match looks good by doing a few moves to the heel.

2) Heat spot Heel cuts the face off with some big impressive moves.
Snow says the problem is that lately heels will do a good-looking move and the face will oversell, thus shifting the crowd to side with the heel.

3) Extensive Heel Beatdown. Snow implies that a lot of the time it kills the match because of the constant selling, leading to...

4) The Hope Spot -It looks like the face will bounce back and the heel cuts him off. Again, the heel cuts the face off one more time and "reinforces the fact that we want to be the heel even more and the face even less."

5) The Double Down - Where both guys will take a hit and sell for a long time.
Snow feels like this is dumb because the heel has been dealing out offense for five or ten minutes but now seems as hurt as his opponent. The crowd stops liking both workers because they both seem weak. "Now we don't want to be either of you!"

6) The Comeback - The face fights back against a heel that will stop defending himself.
These are the 4 moves before the finisher to end the match, the "5 Moves Of Doom."

7) The Finish/False Finishes - Snow points out that now and only now will either guy try to win the match. After ten minutes, only now will you see a pinfall attempt that has a chance to end the match. This then leads to the finish, which at this point he says "means nothing".

We just saw it with Swagger/Cena.

Your thoughts?

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Old 05-16-2011, 10:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It can be done well. Something like this happened in Cara/Bryan last Friday and I loved it.

I'd rather wrestlers be able to tell different stories and experiment with different formulas. Unfortunately, that tends to come from a broader experience base than just going to FCW.
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Old 05-16-2011, 10:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, it works for WWE apparently...
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Remove steps 4-6 and you have pretty much every Randy Orton match...
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Some of what he says is good... but is he watching the WWE right now with some of the other stuff? The WWE is apparently trying to put out the match that will sell tickets instead of the best possible match... and business is declining. I don't agree with his best match/match that sells tickets schtick, but his stuff on the making of a match and the formulaic death knell ringing right now is dead on. You can call almost any match on any program spot for spot now.
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Remove steps 4-6 and you have pretty much every Randy Orton match...
LOL, I was going to say step 4 is usually cut out in Cena's matches, but this is even better. Spot on.
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that is a shoot and one of the big problems in the business right now. All matches have the same outline.
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Honestly though, I think you can even boil it down to 3 steps:

1) Face looks good.

2) Heel looks good.

3) Face comes back to win.

When you think about it, it's a great format...for kids. It's the same formula I loved when I was growing up, the problem is that we as older fans don't fall for it. I can almost guarantee that 90% of the members here don't care who's face/heel, they just want to see a good and unpredictable match in the ring. Everyone's definition of a "good match" will vary, but it will hardly ever follow these "7 Steps."
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Thats basically the outcome of all matches, not just WWE.
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I for one really dislike this formula. I don't think it suspends belief enough to even work for kids. I remember when I was younger, I hated this type of match. I'd rather see the heel and face both going at it like they wanted to win. So the match would be equal.
One major problem that happens with using the Heel 80% vs Face 20% is if you have more than one failed comeback, it causes everyone to not care when the big comeback happens. Everyone just gets fed up by the time it comes, and the crowd have already cheered twice for a comeback which failed so most of the time, they are "out cheered" by this point.
If you want to keep the audience watching with 100% concentration have veriaty. And this is just spot after spot, have the heel and face take equal punishment and deal is equally aswell. Look at Rock vs Austin, it was always a equal match, Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels was equal. Having the match equal, the crowd rarely get deflated as there is less anti-climax. Yes you can have people hit flash finishers, but don't use that as the only finish attempt and the only one that works (most of Ortons matchs end this way). Like majority of the time if Shawn Michaels hit a flash SCM, it was after his opponent had already kicked out of majority of stuff.
Aswell, the finisher used at the end can also contribute. If not enough people have kicked out of it, then you never really care to a flash finish, or if the finisher only looks good with power, like the FU, the quicker it is done, the more it looks like a simple firemans carry.
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