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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Anyone want to suggest a good WCW PPV or a few between 96-99?

I feel like reliving some good moments and only have seen a handful of shows since then maybe three PPVs whole.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

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Anyone want to suggest a good WCW PPV or a few between 96-99?

I feel like reliving some good moments and only have seen a handful of shows since then maybe three PPVs whole.
Fall Brawl: WarGames 1996 might be the early nWo era pay-per-view masterpiece for WCW. You've got a solid opener (DDP vs. Chavo!), Konnan vs. Juvented for the AAA Heavyweight Championship, Rey Mysterio vs. Super Calo for the WCW Cruiserweight Championship, Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho in one of those matches that makes you miss WCW, a fun Harlem Heat/Nasty Boys tag brawl for the Tag Team Championships, Giant vs. Randy Savage and the big historic WarGames match which saw the birth of 15-month angle that should have been like shooting fish in a barrel but WCW somehow blew it with nWo Sting~!

Interestingly, the first five matches of Fall Brawl: WarGames 1997 are great, too, but the rest of the show kind of sucks. Eddy Guerrero vs. Chris Jericho is a dazzling opener; Steiner Bros. vs. Harlem Heat never gets old; Alex Wright vs. Ultimo Dragon was a sweet match that went nearly 20 minutes! I remember Jeff Jarrett vs. Dean Malenko being solid, and Wrath & Mortis vs. The Faces of Fear (Meng and Barbarian) was a downright swell war (I was a massive mark for Wrath & Mortis with James Vandernberg at the time).

For a match taken out of a pay-per-view, go for Rey Mysterio vs. Eddy Guerrero at Halloween Havoc 1997. That. Match. Rules.

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Yeah the Halloween Havoc Rey/Eddie one I have seen. Great match.

Thanks for that i'll look into that PPV.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Could someone please clarify how much of Cena's boo's at Wrestlemania 27 have been edited on the dvd. Have they edited out just the boo's after the chior entrance or have they edited Cena's boo's thoughout the duration of the match? Thanks.

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I'd like to see that Barrett/Orton/Sheamus one on there for recent cage matches. Also the HBK/Flair vs Familia one. I need to see Eddie/JBL and Christian/Jericho. I have yet to see Punk/Hardy either which sounded really good.
JBL vs. Eddie is on at least one set already.
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Anyone want to suggest a good WCW PPV or a few between 96-99?

I feel like reliving some good moments and only have seen a handful of shows since then maybe three PPVs whole.
Hog Wild 1996 - Take a look at the card. It's like looking at the lineup for a Starrcade that never was: Rey Mysterio vs. Ultimo Dragon, Chris Benoit vs. Dean Malenko, Harlem Heat vs. The Steiner Brothers, Ric Flair vs. Eddie Guerrero, The Outsiders vs. Sting & Lex Luger, and The Giant vs. Hollywood Hogan.

Halloween Havoc 1998 - Chris Jericho vs. Raven, Disco Inferno vs. Juventud Guerrera, Billy Kidman vs. Disco Inferno, Scott Hall vs. Kevin Nash, Bret Hart vs. Sting, Hollywood Hogan vs. The Warrior (not as bad as people say), and Goldberg vs. Diamond Dallas Page.

Spring Stampede 1999 - Juventud Guerrera vs. Blitzkrieg, Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Hak (The Sandman), Konnan vs. Disco Inferno, Rey Mysterio vs. Billy Kidman, Chris Benoit & Dean Malenko vs. Raven & Saturn, Booker T vs. Scott Steiner, Goldberg vs. Kevin Nash, and Ric Flair vs. Sting vs. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Hollywood Hogan.

Favorite Matches of All Time

1. Triple-Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit - WrestleMania XX

2. Career Threatening Match: Shawn Michaels vs. Ric Flair - WrestleMania XXIV

3. WWE Championship: John Cena vs. CM Punk - Money in the Bank 2011

4. No Holds Barred Match: The Undertaker vs. Triple H - WrestleMania XXVII

5. WWF Championship: Hulk Hogan vs. The Ultimate Warrior - WrestleMania VI
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Anyone want to suggest a good WCW PPV or a few between 96-99?

I feel like reliving some good moments and only have seen a handful of shows since then maybe three PPVs whole.
Great American Bash 1996 - Rey Mysterio's WCW debut, classic matchup against Malenko. A really fun Falls Count Anywhere match between Benoit and Sullivan. Great match in Sting/Regal and a surprisingly good match in Anderson/Flair vs. McMichael/Greene. My review of the show is my only blog I've posted if you wanna check it out.

Spring Stampede 1999 - Awesome opener in Juventud/Blitzkrieg, another fun hardcore match in Hak/Bigelow, good Cruiserweight title match between Rey/Kidman, and a very good tag match between Benoit/Malenko vs. Raven/Saturn.

The problem I have actually recommending full PPVs from this era of WCW is that the main event was so damn awful. Normally your undercard is great and the last 2 or 3 matches stink up the joint.

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Just watched TLC 2010 again, and thought it was a fairly fantastic PPV.

Dolph Ziggler/Kingston/Swagger: IC TITLE LADDER MATCH ***1/4

- Great little ladder match here. Could have been more if longer but a great choice for the opener. The action was great, and innovative at the same time. I could have done without the slightly stupid ending, but it didn't ruin the match.

Natalya/Beth vs. LayCool: TAG TEAM TABLES MATCH **1/2

- One of the best womens matches I'd seen in a while. Beth is awesome, her selling is great and the bump she took on the outside (which I dont think was intentional) was amazing. Fantastic end with the splash through the table too, the crowd was into it which is something you don't see a lot of with the women. Looking a tthis, Natalya was champion, Beth had made her return and was doig to something, Michelle was great, it's shocking that the DIVAs champion is now...a Bella.

Santino/Kozlov vs. Gabriel/Slater: **

- Decent enough tag match. Nothing special, but nothing awful.

John Morrison vs. Sheamus: LADDER MATCH FOR THE NUMBER ONE CONENTEDER SPOT ****1/2

- Incredible match. The best ladder match I had seen in AGES. Very innovative. The work on the leg was amazing, and the selling was even better. Some people cal Morrison a spot monkey...yet this was one of the least spotty ladder matches I'd ever seen. Both guys were totally on form and created a classic. The big spill through the table was well done, and I loved the booking of Sheamus being 'like the terminator'. The ending with Sheamus looking like he would tip Morrison off, followed by the kick to the face and the grabbing of the contract was perfect.

It's incredible how they have scewed both guys up since this point. Morrison SHOULD have gotten that push, he was over as hell and was impressing every week. Sheamus had been great for a while and now both do virtually nothing.

The Miz vs. Randy Orton: WWE TITLE TABLES MATCH **

Yep...was a bit boring. Although I eexpected nothing more from a Orton/Miz match. It was too slow and their styles just didn't mesh well. They couldn't follow the ladder match and it was fairly forgettable.

Edge/Kane/Alberto Del Rio/Rey Mysterio: WORLD TITLE TLC MATCH ****

Another fantastic match. Yes it was spotty, and was centered around who would be doing the next big spot etc. But it was fun, the spots were great and everyone was into it. Del Rios bump through the table was scary and looked great. Mysterio was good in this match, Kane played his role very well and Edge was a highlight. They made the title change seem like a big deal with Edge winning and it would have been a very, very good main event, should have been.

John Cena vs. Wade Barrett: CHAIRS MATCH: ***

It shouldn't have been the main event, but it was a good match. These two work well together and this was no different. They both worked very hard, and while the chairs gimmick is stupid, it added slightly to the match. Barrett was booked strongly until the end with the FU on the chairs. Nice match though, the burial with the chairs was uneccesary.

Overall, we got three very good matches (IC Title, Cena/Barrett and the DIVAs match) one great match (the TLC match) and one classic match in my eyes (Morrison/Sheamus) one of the best PPVs not a Wrestlemania in ages.

Marking for: John Morrison, Randy Orton, CM Punk, Sheamus, Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes and Jack Swagger.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I for some reason generally dislike cage matches and actually get angry when they are booked. There are some exceptions but most are boring to me so I have no interest in three discs of cage matches.

I watched Backlash 2009 again last night and couldn't believe how awful Hardy/Hardy is. I actually disliked it more this time than I did two years ago.

Backlash 2009
10:59 Christian VS Jack Swagger - **3/4
12:33 Chris Jericho VS Ricky Steamboat - **1/4
9:25 Kane VS CM Punk - **1/4
19:06 Jeff Hardy VS Matt Hardy - **
22:49 Shane McMahon, Batista & Triple H VS The Legacy - ***1/4
28:24 Edge VS John Cena - ****1/4

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I for some reason generally dislike cage matches and actually get angry when they are booked. There are some exceptions but most are boring to me so I have no interest in three discs of cage matches.

I watched Backlash 2009 again last night and couldn't believe how awful Hardy/Hardy is. I actually disliked it more this time than I did two years ago.

Backlash 2009
10:59 Christian VS Jack Swagger - **3/4
12:33 Chris Jericho VS Ricky Steamboat - **1/4
9:25 Kane VS CM Punk - **1/4
19:06 Jeff Hardy VS Matt Hardy - **
22:49 Shane McMahon, Batista & Triple H VS The Legacy - ***1/4
28:24 Edge VS John Cena - ****1/4
Agreed, I just couldn't get into that match. I loved Cena/Edge though.



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